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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:28 pm to Landmass
Texas...turn down Nick Saban; get Charlie Strong.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:45 pm to Landmass
"Who knows if this true or not, it coulda been"....BWAHAHAHAHA!
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:53 pm to OldPete
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I don't think that he was necessarily about to leave, but I think he was considering it pretty hard. It may just be me, but that the huge contract extension sat on his desk, unsigned, for quite a while, and Battle's concern about it, makes me think it wasn't just a rumor. Also, Miss Terry's comment to the Wall Street Journal makes me think Saban was definitely feeling underappreciated...but who knows?
I remember getting pretty worried when I heard the rumors that Miss Terry was househunting in Austin...was that ever confirmed?
I absolutely think that was his "time to move on and take over another project" moment that he has had at every job his entire life.
For whatever reason (Texas incompetence, getting older, whatever) he passed on that urge and decided to stay and I don't think there has ever been any pull to leave since then. And I think he figured out that maintaining a dynasty is a rebuilding job all it's own and he likes it.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 6:37 pm to Landmass
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Shortly after winning his third national championship at Alabama in 2012, Saban reached out to the Longhorns’ power brass through agent Jimmy Sexton
Fake. Jimmy Sexton isn't the agent that he is by being reactive. Agents keep feelers out all the time. It keeps options open for clients and provides leverage for contract negotiations. There is a high likelihood that Saban knew nothing about the initial contact.
quote:5 titles (6 total, catching the Bear in a much more competitive era) and 12 years later...
If Saban was a business guy, he’d be what you would call a turnaround artist. He’s not a longterm CEO. Fix it, win and go on. He knows he will never catch Bear
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when you can keep Mack Brown for an 8-5 season, with losses to BYU & Ole Miss
it happens, sometimes twice... almost thrice This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 7/10/19 at 6:41 pm to Che Boludo
Texas has money, that's it. For such a powerhouse program, only one title in the desegregated era. OU is a bigger program.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 6:56 pm to RollTide4Ever
Nah. We have a lot more than $. Location, academic prestige, the number one brand in college football, etc.
But there is no doubt the end of the Mack Brown era was buggled badly due to hubris and poor planning by coaches, the administration, and yes our big boosters. The Saban fiasco was and is pretty embarrassing.
That all said, earlier texag7/ Daniel posted that Mack Brown has “always been a scumbag.” This is BS on so many levels- there aren’t a lot of people out there in the football world who don’t consider him a class act. I would put him up against any big time head coach in the last couple of decades in terms of his class and reputation. He was and is a great elder statesman.
Then again, Daniel is used to rooting for a program with a history of violations and scumbaggery going back generations so where does it end. I highly recommend googling Sumlin’s 2013 recruiting class.
But there is no doubt the end of the Mack Brown era was buggled badly due to hubris and poor planning by coaches, the administration, and yes our big boosters. The Saban fiasco was and is pretty embarrassing.
That all said, earlier texag7/ Daniel posted that Mack Brown has “always been a scumbag.” This is BS on so many levels- there aren’t a lot of people out there in the football world who don’t consider him a class act. I would put him up against any big time head coach in the last couple of decades in terms of his class and reputation. He was and is a great elder statesman.
Then again, Daniel is used to rooting for a program with a history of violations and scumbaggery going back generations so where does it end. I highly recommend googling Sumlin’s 2013 recruiting class.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 6:59 pm to bigbopper
Number one brand in cfb? A program with one national title in the last 40 years?
Texas is the England of soccer.
Texas is the England of soccer.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:20 pm to Landmass
According to Paul Finebaum, he stated on national TV that he himself spoke with Nick Saban and Saban said he didn't go to Texas because he DID NOT WANT to go to Texas. Saban said he didn't want to be under 30-40 people which is how Texas operates; instead, he wants to work under 1 person. Texas said they had a "blank check" and was willing to offer Saban $100 million, but it didn't matter to Saban….he wanted to stay at Alabama.
I don't blame him. I can't stand U of Texas and Austin. Place is too ugly.
I don't blame him. I can't stand U of Texas and Austin. Place is too ugly.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:23 pm to RatRodDawg
I wouldn’t stand us either if I were you, after what we did to your team in January.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:24 pm to bigbopper
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number one brand in college football
L o frickin L
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:32 pm to bigbopper
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Nah. We have a lot more than $. Location, academic prestige, the number one brand in college football, etc.
Academic prestige, yes. However, if Texas were in the SEC, you'd be standing 4th in line behind Vanderbilt (14th among all schools, private & public) Georgia (13th public, 46th nationally) & Florida (8th public, 35th nationally), all ranked ahead of Texas (15th public, 49th nationally) in U.S. News College rankings.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:33 pm to Landmass
I remember a ton of smoke about it back then. There was definitely something brewing, but it didn’t work out.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I absolutely think that was his "time to move on and take over another project" moment that he has had at every job his entire life. For whatever reason (Texas incompetence, getting older, whatever) he passed on that urge and decided to stay and I don't think there has ever been any pull to leave since then. And I think he figured out that maintaining a dynasty is a rebuilding job all it's own and he likes it.
This. I had some inside information at the time that he was actually considering it. The desire to win championships at 3 programs was a draw. But it appears that Texas arrogance/incompetence poisoned the move and Saban decided to stay. He’s entrenched now and isn’t going anywhere.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:46 pm to Landmass
1. Saban reaches expressed interest in another job that led to him getting ANOTHER raise at Alabama. Good move on Saban’s part.
2. Barstool spins this as Saban shot down. He wasn’t. He used Texas to get his raise.
3. Tom Hicks admits that the power brokers at Texas are either (a) stupid enough to stick with Mack Brown over Saban, or (b) think they ever had a real shot at getting Saban.
4. If Mack Brown’s quote is real about not wanting Saban to win a championship with his players then Mack Brown is an idiot. The Texas players by that time were not anywhere close to what Saban has had stockpiled at Bama since 2008.
2. Barstool spins this as Saban shot down. He wasn’t. He used Texas to get his raise.
3. Tom Hicks admits that the power brokers at Texas are either (a) stupid enough to stick with Mack Brown over Saban, or (b) think they ever had a real shot at getting Saban.
4. If Mack Brown’s quote is real about not wanting Saban to win a championship with his players then Mack Brown is an idiot. The Texas players by that time were not anywhere close to what Saban has had stockpiled at Bama since 2008.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:16 pm to OldPete
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Battle
This is the only reason I could see him wanting to leave. Battle was terrible.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:16 pm to Landmass
So the story is Mack Brown cockblocked it.
Texas didn't turn down Saban.
Mack Brown did.
Texas didn't turn down Saban.
Mack Brown did.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:44 pm to auisssa
quote:denial
Saban didn't try to leave. Having a discussion is not the same as trying to leave.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:58 pm to Rhino5
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I remember a ton of smoke about it back then. There was definitely something brewing, but it didn’t work out.
I don't think there was much to it. We've been seeing this story the entire time and it always gets rehashed and everyone claims Saban wanted this and that. It's always click/troll bait every time.
And yet the one thing that is consistent in all this is that Saban wasn't even involved.
Sexton is an agent. He represents many high profile coaches. He is going to be meeting with people constantly and they are going to talk about different coaches he represents.
Then loud mouth guy wants to look big and leaks out details of a private conversation(because nobody bullshits others). And what coach in the discussion is going to make the biggest headlines? The one that has caused a now 7 year old story to get rehashed year after year.
But I must admit this is probably the funniest version of it.
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:17 pm to bigbopper
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the number one brand in college football
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