Started By
Message
re: Saban: Bama and LSU
Posted on 5/7/13 at 7:02 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 5/7/13 at 7:02 pm to TxTiger82
quote:
Excellent point. Clearly, without a QB in 2004 we were destined for a down year. However, the 2005-2007 teams at LSU were loaded with talent. Who knows what Saban could have done with that? Maybe LSU would have won 3 in 4. Or maybe even 4 in 5.
The 06 and 07 teams were as talented as any LSU has had. Saban would have gone back to back those years, and might not have lost a game doing it. Goober Pyle, I mean Les Miles, was able to win the NC with that talent in 07 so there's no reason to think Saban would have done differently.
1
Posted on 5/7/13 at 7:18 pm to TideGolfer
nick saban is a better coach now than he was at LSU
Posted on 5/7/13 at 8:55 pm to TideGolfer
He saw LSU as a stepping stone to the NFL- now that he realizes he can't succeed at that level he has devoted his full attention to coaching
Posted on 5/7/13 at 9:16 pm to el gato
The 2004 LSU and 2010 Bama teams had a lot in common. At Bama he's had his program grow up and learn how to handle that ultimate success in the following years. He didn't take the opportunity to do the same thing at LSU.
Lord only knows what happens at LSU in 2005-2007 if Saban had stayed.
That said, The crazy arse, high strung LSU version of Saban could easily have completely lost his team during the Katrina year. That would have been the ultimate wild-card and would have been very interesting to see Saban handle.
Lord only knows what happens at LSU in 2005-2007 if Saban had stayed.
That said, The crazy arse, high strung LSU version of Saban could easily have completely lost his team during the Katrina year. That would have been the ultimate wild-card and would have been very interesting to see Saban handle.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 9:55 pm to 756
That's how most coaches see LSU except someone like a Les Miles.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 9:58 pm to TideGolfer
quote:
Why has Saban been more successful at Bama?
That is what happens when you put a great coach at the SEC'S premier football program.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 9:59 pm to TideGolfer
(no message)
Posted on 5/7/13 at 10:09 pm to TideGolfer
Tuscaloosa is a much easier city to navigate. Baton Rouge always seems to have road construction and the city is too spread out. It seems that parents would much rather send their kid to a school that is in a city that is easy to get around in. Better athletes, better teams.
If Baton Rouge fixes their roads then LSU can compete with Saban.
And cheating refs. And Alabama approves the schedules before they go out. And ESPN hates LSU. That's all I can think of now.
What do I win?
If Baton Rouge fixes their roads then LSU can compete with Saban.
And cheating refs. And Alabama approves the schedules before they go out. And ESPN hates LSU. That's all I can think of now.
What do I win?
Posted on 5/7/13 at 10:18 pm to TideGolfer
He would have eventually had about the same amount of success. He built the program at Bama faster because the excitement caused around the state after he was hired led to him being able to pull in huge recruiting classes.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 10:37 pm to northalabamacracker
quote:
That is what happens when you put a great coach at the SEC'S premier football program.
there is nothing bama has that other major SEC programs don't have in terms of facilities or resources. Those dusty old trophy cases don't mean anything to recruits. Saban's track record and NFL pedigree does.
Yeah they want to play in front of 90-100k every week and have the best of everything in terms of facilities but guess what, you aren't the only program that has all that. This idea that well you were good in the 60's somehow has some influence over the present is illogical and wrong.
Alabama fans might be the most ignorant in the country with this silly shite. I rue the day our baseball fans start talking like this but sadly it's probably coming here in the next 5-10 years or so.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 10:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Alabama fans might be the most ignorant in the country with this silly shite. I rue the day our baseball fans start talking like this but sadly it's probably coming here in the next 5-10 years or so.
Exactly. Kids want to go to Alabama because Saban is a boss and they are winning now. It has nothing to do with what the Bear did. And I'm with you with our baseball fans. USC, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Vandy(scholarship advantages), A&M, Miss St, and even Florida have just as much opportunity to be a dominant baseball program as LSU does due to facilities and talent base. Hell add UGA in there even though they have shite facilities.
eta. They just make threads like this and respond with shite like the guy you quoted did to stroke their ego to talk themselves into the idea that no one else has an opportunity to be as good as them...that they're BAMA because they're BAMA. They have had some incredible coaches that took their resources and ran with it. Put Saban at UF, LSU, UGA, Tenn, Auburn, and A&M and you have very similar results.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 10:48 pm to TideGolfer
quote:A lot of programs have slipped since Saban was at LSU.
Why has Saban been more successful at Bama?
LSU with Miles has been one dimensional on offense
Miami is gone
Nebraska is gone
USC got into trouble
Urban Meyer left Florida
Oklahoma went down with the defections in the Big-12
Texas seems over the hill with Mack Brown
Auburn is down
Georgia has been treading water
Ohio St. got into trouble
Michigan went down
Things are about to change.
UCLA with Jim Mora Jr. is now recruiting well
USC will be loaded, but might still need to find a good coach
N.D. is now recruiting well
Ohio St. with Meyer is recruiting well
Michigan seems to be recruiting well
Florida with Muschanp is recruiting well
TAM with Sumlin is recruiting well.
Florida St. is recruiting well
LSU with Cameron is about to get a real offense and is been recruiting well
With Saban's relatively easy SEC schedule, this year will be his best chance at another National title for a long time; the competition is about to get a lot tougher both in the SEC West, SEC East, and on a national level.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
there is nothing bama has that other major SEC programs don't have in terms of facilities or resources. Those dusty old trophy cases don't mean anything to recruits. Saban's track record and NFL pedigree does.
Yeah they want to play in front of 90-100k every week and have the best of everything in terms of facilities but guess what, you aren't the only program that has all that. This idea that well you were good in the 60's somehow has some influence over the present is illogical and wrong.
Alabama fans might be the most ignorant in the country with this silly shite. I rue the day our baseball fans start talking like this but sadly it's probably coming here in the next 5-10 years or so.
Nerve struck.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:11 pm to thefloydian
I think it's odd that every time someone states the obvious (That Alabama is the SEC's premier football program), LSU fans start falling all over themselves to explain how Alabama has no natural advantage. I mean, if anyone is delusional enough to think they are the #1 SEC football program it should be Florida, not LSU.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:17 pm to graychef
quote:
Because he sucks. Bama pays good players. LSU doesn't.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:36 pm to Bmath
quote:
Nick Saban also left after the 04 season. If he would have stayed for several more years who is to say he couldn't have won more championships at LS
This ^
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:39 pm to WAOMrebears
Being the number one football program in the SEC is about as transitional as it gets.
Other conferences have one or two perennial powers, but the SEC has 4.5. Bama, Florida, LSU, TAM, with Georgia and Ole Miss on the outside looking in.
Bama fans better hurry up and get all the bragging out of their systems because things are about to get a lot tougher. Both TAM and LSU will be their equal in the West with Florida just as much an equal in the East.
Too bad the SEC only gets one team in the playoffs each year. Let the whining begin.
Other conferences have one or two perennial powers, but the SEC has 4.5. Bama, Florida, LSU, TAM, with Georgia and Ole Miss on the outside looking in.
Bama fans better hurry up and get all the bragging out of their systems because things are about to get a lot tougher. Both TAM and LSU will be their equal in the West with Florida just as much an equal in the East.
Too bad the SEC only gets one team in the playoffs each year. Let the whining begin.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:53 pm to Sheetbend
quote:
Too bad the SEC only gets one team in the playoffs each year
Maybe I am unfamiliar with the rules so explain this please.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:53 pm to TideGolfer
He is clearly in his coaching prime right now at Bama. He's learned from his mistakes in the NFL and even his mistakes at LSU and built a powerhouse.
That and an easy arse schedule every year.
That and an easy arse schedule every year.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:57 pm to TideGolfer
love the offseason 
Page 4 of 7
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News