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re: Rumor out today saying Texas and OU will start play in 22.

Posted on 8/24/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9156 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 11:02 am to
OU will be fine and they should be competitive. Texas, on the other hand, is not ready. They will get their shite pushed in on the regular until their recruiting improves in the trenches.
Would be better off waiting until 2025 as a couple of 4-8 seasons will be staring them in the face.
Will be hilarious watching Mike Leach, among others, pregame press conferences again....trying to talk Texas up with a straight face.
Bring it bitches!
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20368 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 11:03 am to
The SOONER we get to frick up Texass... the better.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10948 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 11:16 am to
texsa isn't going to do well until they figure out this whole "skill position" thing.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

There's no such thing as "cleaning up COVID shyte". Governments can't stop viruses, and there will never be a "zero COVID" situation.


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Posted by AustinAggie
Behind Enemy Lines
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:02 pm to


A&M will beat tu by 3+ TDs if we play in 22
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:08 pm to
The 99 year agreement both Texas and OU signed is legally Delaware. Everyone keeps overlooking this. The big 12 has to fall apart, there is no real other buyout option. If a school is proven to have broken the agreement it forfeits future media rights up to 99 years.

Just ask “soldier horn on 247”

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It absolutely means a LOT. The bylaws didnt mean much, which is what they relied on before. Before 2012, the penalty for leaving wasnt very much. IIRC, the penalty was $20mil if the announcement was the same year as leaving, half that with a one year notice, and no penalty if announced more than two years out. This is why nebbie got away with only paying a $10mil penalty, and whined about that. I think what the B12 realized was that a (club) bylaw violation is a very minor & weak court action. This is why all the malcontents that left negotiated down their penalties (as small as they were already) and the B12 couldnt do very much about it. This became immediately evident when Colorado left and there wasnt much the conference could do about it. With rumors that nebbie was in cahoots with Delany to covertly screw over the B12 at the last minute the way Colorado did, the conference members wanted everyone so sign a contract affirming their relationship with the conference. Of course, nebbie wouldnt sign and that showed their hand and what their plan was all along. Then in August/Sept of that same year (2010), aggy and mizzy decided to do the same thing that nebbie did so an enforceable contract needed to be put off until 2012 when the situation stabilized. With this contract, there is a double wammy penalty: withhold previous and future media revenues. Now, there is no incremental penalty and there is no time line; you announce you are leaving and you will lose two years of conference distributions, which is a heck of a lot of money now. What was the last distribution estimate? $38mil and $35mil the year before that? combined over $70mil with a contract designed to hold up in court. THAT's serious money on its own. Then add the future loss of media revenues with the GOR depending on remaining years on the GOR contract. this piles on to the 99 year contract penalties and you could easily be talking well over $100mil combined penalty. Even if a skool were to try and fight the penalty in court, it would tie up their revenues for years and they likely would not like the outcome.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:26 pm to
Probably because the alliance is getting close to agreeing who gets who from the remainder of the Big 12.
Posted by jiminAZ
QUEEN CREEK
Member since Jul 2021
144 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:34 pm to
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That's why these rumors are BS. There is an exit fee under the Big XII bylaws which applies any time you leave the conference, but which has no teeth when it comes to the Texas schools as sovereign immunity effectively bars enforcement through the courts. However, the grant of rights is a real barrier, and it's hard to see a school leaving early without their media rights. The Big XII has no reason to take a low ball payment from OU/Texas to leave early as Fox would undoubtedly void their contract with the Big XII if they did so. OU/Texas will have to pay the left behind 8 enough to make up for that loss, which won't be cheap, or else there is no incentive for the left behind 8 to cut them loose early.


That cost is clear. Approximately 75M per team and maybe some change. What isn't known is who may also leave, because the train is leaving the station. The B12 by-laws are not set on a percentage of members, but on "7" to make a quorum. Two go, and they still have a conference, but can't vote on anything. That will walk in court most any day.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:39 pm to
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That cost is clear. Approximately 75M per team and maybe some change. What isn't known is who may also leave, because the train is leaving the station. The B12 by-laws are not set on a percentage of members, but on "7" to make a quorum. Two go, and they still have a conference, but can't vote on anything. That will walk in court most any day.
Who else is going and where? If you say AAC, you marked yourself down for being clueless. Nobody is going to take a step down until they've milked that cow for all its worth.
Posted by 8
Albuquerque
Member since Jul 2021
311 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
Most the smoke is Big ten taking iowa state and KU. That gives them even more AAU money and it's an easy cultural fit.

After that its WVU to ACC where they belong (but who else do they take to even it out?)

OsU to the PAC looks like it will probably happen and you figure TTU or KSU will go with them.

But, that all hinges on the b1g taking their 2 and starting the dominoes.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 2:05 pm
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Most the smoke is Big ten taking iowa state and KU. That gives them even more AAU money and it's an easy cultural fit.

After that its WVU to ACC where they belong (but who else do they take to even it out?)

OsU to the PAC looks like it will probably happen and you figure TTU or KSU will go with them.

But, that all hinges on the b1g taking their 2 and starting the dominoes.

Don't fall for that Dave Wannstedt crap. There is no "AAU money;" that's just a point of pride for the Big Ten, insisting that new members be AAU. It doesn't put any dollars in anyone's pockets.

Realignment is all about football and Kansas football is a joke. The Big Ten has enough regrets over taking Rutgers and Maryland that it isn't going to do something even more stupid like taking Kansas. Iowa State has been on a nice run in football, but they don't move the needle from a TV standpoint, either. Doubling down on the state of Iowa makes no sense.

We're only likely to see two tangible results from this Big Ten/ACC/Pac-12 alliance talk:(1) they are going to tap the brakes on CFP expansion; and (2) these leagues are going to stand pat for a while with regard to membership.
Posted by 8
Albuquerque
Member since Jul 2021
311 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:28 pm to
Theres no AAU money?
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3345 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:35 pm to
Does go along with the other rumor about 5 other big 12 schools finding conferences. But probably just the last gasp of off-season entertainment.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Theres no AAU money?
For the league? No. It's not like the athletic side where bringing in a big name can result in your TV partner paying you more. AAU schools work together on research projects from time to time, but that's a function of being in the AAU, not in the conference.

The Big Ten has a research partnership which has been around for a long time, and while that would be an attractive reason for KU and ISU to want to join the Big Ten, KU and ISU don't really have much to offer the Big Ten in return on the academic front.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3026 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:12 pm to
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There is no exit fee for the GOR. How are they going to handle that? SEC just won't get a cut of their games?



They will settle.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3361 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:41 pm to
OU will be even more stacked in 22. SEC fricked
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9437 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:45 pm to
So this might be the last time nick saban faces LSU?
Posted by ATW
Columbia, Mo
Member since Jul 2021
759 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25438 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:22 pm to
ESPN will pay the exit fee
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