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re: RIP college sports? Dartmouth athletes allowed to unionize
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:43 pm to LSU82BILL
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:43 pm to LSU82BILL
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the Ivy League doesn't have athletic scholarships.
Unless you're rich you're going to get an academic scholarship at most Ivys. There's a reason the endowments are in the tens of billions.
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:03 pm to jonnyanony
We need more people playing sports. Our nation is fat as hell. They are going to mess around and destroy college athletics.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:24 am to bigDgator
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No more athletic scholarships. Everyone who competes has to gain entrance to the school the same as the rest of the students. If you make the team you get free food
And there'll nothing more than family,friends and some
students in the stands and nobody watching on TV.
Great way to kill CFB
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:52 am to RD Dawg
Public employees in many states cannot unionize. This would not be allowed in many states like Texas or Wisconsin. I believe much of the SEC states are the same. This will only really affect Vanderbilt if they want to do it since they are the only private school.
Not that it matters to schools with deep pockets because this is a problem piles of money can usually solve.
Not that it matters to schools with deep pockets because this is a problem piles of money can usually solve.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:24 am to hawgfaninc
I am pretty sure having players get million dollar plus deals already put a bullet in the brain pan. You are a little late on the eulogy.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:32 am to hawgfaninc
I remember so many here saying NIL is a good thing, and that those of us saying this is a slippery slope of worse things to come, and will change the CFB experience and fun of the sport were fearmongering.
The open portal and the NIL has already changed the college football we all loved.
The open portal and the NIL has already changed the college football we all loved.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:35 am to OleVaught14
Good point. I'm all for unions until they screw things up. Has to be a balance.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:34 am to bigDgator
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We need to go back to regular students competing on the athletic teams. No more athletic scholarships. Everyone who competes has to gain entrance to the school the same as the rest of the students. If you make the team you get free food.
It's this, it's just a matter of time. The university presidents need to step in and take back control of everything and when they do college sports will be reset. No more allowing kids that can't even fricking read into college just so that they can play football.
We are going to see a reset, and I'm all for it.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:35 am to RD Dawg
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And there'll nothing more than family,friends and some
students in the stands and nobody watching on TV.
Great way to kill CFB
Not true, go to any Ivy League game and you will see that football is alive and thriving.. the way it was meant to be consumed.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:38 am to hawgfaninc
lmao another domino falls.
The melt around here will be glorious when the NCAA gets the boot and the shamvestigation of Tennessee blows away like a fart in the wind.
Goodbye NCAA, you low-rent anal warts.
The melt around here will be glorious when the NCAA gets the boot and the shamvestigation of Tennessee blows away like a fart in the wind.
Goodbye NCAA, you low-rent anal warts.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:40 am to Smokeys Howl
Poor Kirby chose the wrong time to try to play Saban's game.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:56 pm to hawgfaninc
Well of course we knew it would emanate out of the Ivy League
They're not "working on behalf of Dartmouth athletes," they're just trying to influence destruction of athletics entities for universities in Middle America
Ivy League already proudly segregates itself from everyone else in football. Hmm, I think we know why.
They're not "working on behalf of Dartmouth athletes," they're just trying to influence destruction of athletics entities for universities in Middle America
Ivy League already proudly segregates itself from everyone else in football. Hmm, I think we know why.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:02 pm to Hellmet
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Not true, go to any Ivy League game and you will see that football is alive and thriving
LOL
Been to several (my Brother played at Penn)
The very last thing I'd say about Ivy League FB is that it's "alive and thriving"
Every school loses money and attendance is a joke.
Penn hasn't averaged 5 figures in attendance in 10 years
The ONLY game that draws any type of respectable attendance figure is Harvard/Yale played at Yale.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:55 pm to Prometheus
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Good, I hope it all burns to the ground.
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Prometheus
Checks out.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:41 am to bigDgator
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Everyone who competes has to gain entrance to the school the same as the rest of the students. If you make the team you get free food.
Right. And in exchange for the free food players' efforts, will the coaches and athletic directors still be pulling down 7-8 figures (and rising) annual salaries? Will the schools still get to haul in tens of millions a year in media payouts?
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 3:42 am
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:49 am to BigBinBR
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The only way to get there is for the conferences, school, and players to all come to an agreement where they all agreed to be governed by those rules.
The problem is that the “players” are only there for 4 years. If they are actually good it’s less. They are only a short term stake holder, and that makes them incredibly difficult to negotiate with.
Another problem is NIL. It makes no sense for any 4/5 star player (or even proven 3 stars) to sign up to a deal that will cost them millions in earnings. At no public institution can anyone be forced to join a union. And the Supreme Court has recently rule that any employee at a public institution can't even be forced to pay dues or follow a union negotiated deal.
So your membership would only consist of marginal players who would likely quit the union the day after they string together a few good games or decent season statwise and NIL comes knocking.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 3:51 am
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:21 am to RD Dawg
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Great way to kill CFB
That was the original product, the product that fans went crazy for, the product that created the need to build bigger and bigger stadiums.
I have news for you: college football was huge in the 40's and 50's, long before Bear Bryant was paying players and teams became filled with gang thugs making millions a year.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:15 pm to Smokeys Howl
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That was the original product
Great and it's now called division III and Ivy League and can't draw flies.
What's so difficult to figure out?
Do you not realize how much things have changed since the 40's and 50's?[
quote]gang thugs making millions a year[/quote]
Jesus
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:29 pm to BAP Enthusiast
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Public employees in many states cannot unionize.
See in my opinion the crux of NIL has been the springboard for the left pushing union agendas. They could care less about the athletes. In NC, SC, and VA no government employees can have employees bargaining rights. Texas and Georgia do allow firefighters and police but that is it I believe.
Democrats have been pushing hard for the Public Service Freedom to Negotiate Act, especially in the south where many states are right to work.
Not to mention the unions to a big hit several years back when the Supreme Court rejected agency fees. In states that allow unions for public positions, but employees had the choice (Right to Work) whether to join they were still trying to charge an agency fee (union due in reality) with the argument nonunion employees still benefited from the union when winning things that affected all employees.
Private schools do not have the same restrictions.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:35 pm to RD Dawg
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Great and it's now called division III
Call it what you want. People went crazy for it. They'd go crazy for it again.
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