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re: Recruting talent in each SEC state for 2018....
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:39 am to Lsualum2017
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:39 am to Lsualum2017
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Texas, Florida, and Georgia aren't those the most populated states in the SEC
Approx 58m between the three and 36m from the other states combined.
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:41 am to OldSchoolHorn
And Alabama still takes most of what it wants.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:51 am to CapstoneGrad06
Not so much last year.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:59 am to koreandawg
Looking like a 7 for 8 right now.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 1:29 am to tattoo
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Historically, Bama has usually gotten most of the instate talent. The late 90s and early 00s were an aberration because of the only time in their history they've had that kind of dysfunction. You've never gotten that much Alabama talent before and likely won't ever again. Bama had fallen in the floor and couldn't get up for about 10 years - even though they had 3 10 win seasons and an SEC championship beating UF at their peak away from home twice in one season. Those were miracles.- the fans and especially the kids never quit.
You've made some quality,educated posts and I agree with you, but remember, we're coming off our worst decade and season in the history of Tennessee football.
Very similar to Bama in their slump.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:56 am to CapstoneGrad06
This time last year, the guys covering UGA were even worrying that the 2018 class wouldn't be in the top 10. My bet is that if you do finish ahead of UGA this year, it won't be anywhere near the gap between us last year.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:56 am to Shoney
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Georgia should feel nothing but shame
That shame led to richt getting fired. Then we finally played up to our potential and won the sec thanks to smart.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:22 am to djsdawg
You guys may dominate the East for the next few years, but don't count your money before you've done the work and cashed the check. If you don't roll this year I would be real pissed if I was a Georgia fan. Tennessee is in a transition year, Pruitt has had to overhaul everything. Florida is in the same boat, and they let their recruiting slip the last few classes. A damn robot should be able to recruit at Flordia. A coach literally has to say "to hell with it, I'm rich f**k recruiting" to not get top 10 classes at Fla. The future is going to get harder for Ga though. Pruitt will have Tennessee competing with them, and it won't take as long as people think. Mushchamp will continue making SC better. I think Mullen is either going to be a big hit or big miss at Fla, we'll see. Go get it this year Dawgs, it will get tougher and tougher.
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:26 am to DaronTexas
LINK
The link is for the state of Georgia recruits in 2018. I'm not gonna link each state. You can select the state at the top. If you're saying it's invalid, be my guest to go through and show me where I'm wrong.
And some of you need to realize that when talking recruiting, the year means the class. Recruits this year are 2019, not 2018.
The link is for the state of Georgia recruits in 2018. I'm not gonna link each state. You can select the state at the top. If you're saying it's invalid, be my guest to go through and show me where I'm wrong.
And some of you need to realize that when talking recruiting, the year means the class. Recruits this year are 2019, not 2018.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:30 am to BigOrangeBri
Bama was on probation, though. Not sure what UT's excuse is.
Saban will always go after the five star and miss out on under radar talent. That was the case at LSU. It's a numbers game.
Saban will always go after the five star and miss out on under radar talent. That was the case at LSU. It's a numbers game.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:31 am to TigerMeister
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but muh per capita
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Lol are you implying that doesn’t mean anything?
From a purely interesting standpoint, it does. From a very practicla, tangible standpoint, it does not.
If you need 25 signees in your class and you have 10 legit god ones in your state, do you care if population wise you have a lot of signable players?
In other words, if UGA signed all the top players from their state and LSU signed all of the top players from Louisiana, which program would have the biggest benefit?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:42 am to CapstoneGrad06
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I wish he would go after more of those three stars in Alabama. Lots of those kids end of in the NFL. The state of Alabama is vastly underrated.
With recruiting it can be a Catch 22 type of situation.
Some kids don't get ranked higher because the state they play in doesn't have the reputation. the state they play in doesn't have the reputation because the kids don't get the ranking. It takes a long time to get that worked out, but you would think the services would look at talent levels in the NFL to help them.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:51 am to DawgsLife
Probation Mirage
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:53 am to OldSchoolHorn
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Texas, Florida, and Georgia aren't those the most populated states in the SEC
Approx 58m between the three and 36m from the other states combined.
#2 Texas
#3 Florida
#8 Georgia
But that doesn't ell the whole story, no matter how much people want it to. (#1 is California, by the way)
#4 New York
#5 Illinois
#6 Pennsylavania
#9 is North Carolina
None of these states would be considered great hotbeds for football talent, although North carolina has put out some fin athletes. It's also a matter of developing the talent, and there are tons of things that enter into this. Weather, coaches, interest in the sport, etc for instance. If it were only a matter of population then New York would be near the top as would Illinois and Pennsylvania.
All in all, when taking only population into consideration, I would say Alabama(#24), Louisiana(#25) and Tennessee(#16) do a pretty good job of developing talent.
I think weather plays a huge role in the south having success with both baseball and football talent. Who wants to play baseball in march in new York? Or football in December in New York, Michigan or Ohio? Even Spring practice in March would be more of a chore in the Northern states than in the south.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:55 am to koreandawg
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Not so much last year.
Last year, Alabama took a smaller class. (yes, out per player rating was still higher and we did well, but Alabama didn't do nearly as poorly as their ranking would indicate) This year, we think we will be taking a smaller class. We will still probably have a great per player rating, but I would be shocked if we finished in the top 2-3. Top 5, maybe.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:59 am to SAINTS0321
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Probation Mirage
Not sure what this means. It's been a long, long time since Alabama has been on probation, and there have been a lot of schools who were on probation yet their states recruits remained high in the rankings. California/USC for one example. Auburn, in the distant past was on probation.
Saying ranking for Alabama kids have been depressed due to Alabama being on probation in 2012 is an excuse made up by fans.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:03 pm to Shoney
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The future is going to get harder for Ga though. Pruitt will have Tennessee competing with them, and it won't take as long as people think. Mushchamp will continue making SC better.
But it won't get tougher for those teams you mentioned? I mean, we all compete against each other, but all of a sudden Georgia will struggle and those other schools will sail on and get theirs? Why?
I realize they have been down. But Tennessee will still go against USC, Florida and Georgia. We all compete against each other. Tougher? Maybe. Let's wait and see if Mullen and Pruitt work out at their schools, too.
We also need to see what Kirby can do at Georgia. It is still early, but I like what I saw. The trick will be can he keep it up.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:04 pm to scrooster
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That would be correct ... but what we are lacking in-state this year we will take out of Charlotte, so we're cool.
Hopefully it's not a trend for the state of SC... It's a really bad year for recruits.
This will probably be one of the weaker Clemson classes in quite a few years. We haven't depended on instate guys for a while, but we have been mining GA like a pro, and Kirby is doing a better job of locking down the state. NC is also getting tougher to recruit. I expect our class to finish around 15th this year despite the strong overall brand.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:13 pm to DawgsLife
Fair statements there, but the poster was speaking about population in the SEC states.
If ur in “football country” and have a high population there is an inherent advantage for sure. National recruiting is more common now than ever, but knowing you can pull 15 quality kids every year from a 300 mile radius or less will always be huge.
Texas has gravitated towards national recruiting under Strong and now Herman & I’m a big fan of that.
If ur in “football country” and have a high population there is an inherent advantage for sure. National recruiting is more common now than ever, but knowing you can pull 15 quality kids every year from a 300 mile radius or less will always be huge.
Texas has gravitated towards national recruiting under Strong and now Herman & I’m a big fan of that.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 1:44 pm to Shoney
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If you don't roll this year I would be real pissed if I was a Georgia fan.
We should win the East but I don't expect last years results.2019 will be a far more talented and deep roster
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A damn robot should be able to recruit at Flordia. A coach literally has to say "to hell with it, I'm rich f**k recruiting" to not get top 10 classes at Fla
Not so sure about that.They still have to deal with FSU and Miami and the blue chippers are pretty much concentrated in Tampa,Miami and Fort Lauderdale.Not a slam dunk by any means.
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The future is going to get harder for Ga though. Pruitt will have Tennessee competing with them, and it won't take as long as people think.
No doubt UT and SC will get
better but who's to day UGA wont? Plus the instate talent is still growing every year along with the population.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 1:45 pm
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