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re: Recruting talent in each SEC state for 2018....
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:03 pm to OldSchoolHorn
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:03 pm to OldSchoolHorn
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If ur in “football country” and have a high population there is an inherent advantage for sure. National recruiting is more common now than ever, but knowing you can pull 15 quality kids every year from a 300 mile radius or less will always be huge.
I understand, and to a certaind egree agree. My counter point to that would be this: Do you think Texas, with the second best talent levels in the country has an advantage? I would say, no. Not when you consider you have to compete for those recruits with Texas A&M, LSU, Oklahoma, TCU, Texas Tech, Arkansas. Most are not in your state, but when you the talent Texas has other big schools will come in hard. California has a ton of schools, too. Florida has Georgia, Clemson, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Miami all vying for the best talent and Georgia has Clemson, Auburn, Florida, FSU South Carolina and Tennessee among others.
At one time, I think, home state advantage was a thing. I mean, people didn't knwo thta much about recruits in other states because there simply wan't the recruiting services, internet etc. Today with Scouting Services, internet and other media even casual fans have access to who the best recruits are and where they are. Shoot you can find out what their hobbies are, interests, girlfriend...everything. All of this information goes in to how you recruit a kid. I'm just not seeing as huge an advantage for home states anymore. Some advantage, but not as much.
When you get to Georgia, we have had such a huge influx of people moving in that a lot of our top players families moved in from Louisiana, Michigan....all over the country. They have no allegiance to the state or state schools.
Recruiting has become big business today, and when something is big business, the whole model changes.
These are just my opinions, and I'm sure some will disagree, though.
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:06 pm to RD Dawg
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No doubt UT and SC will get
better but who's to day UGA wont? Plus the instate talent is still growing every year along with the population.
Not to mention that a few years ago everybody thought Ole Miss, MState, LSU and Texas A&M would be better. We still think that for some of the schools. Just because people think something doesn't necessarily mean it will happen.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:17 pm to DawgsLife
We agree on most points, but I think TX clearly has an advantage in being the #1 player in a top 3 talent state.
Some don’t care, some wanna leave the state, but a big chunk would rather stay close to home &/or play for the in state flagship program.
I think half our classes each year are top kids that are Texans and want to play for Texas first and foremost when provided the opportunity.
It’s not as strong a case as before, but still a healthy advantage.
Some don’t care, some wanna leave the state, but a big chunk would rather stay close to home &/or play for the in state flagship program.
I think half our classes each year are top kids that are Texans and want to play for Texas first and foremost when provided the opportunity.
It’s not as strong a case as before, but still a healthy advantage.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:25 pm to DawgsLife
Georgia may get better, probably will. I just think it's real damn easy to win the east this year, while in the next few years it will be tougher. I don't think Georgia will become the Bama of the East. Tennessee has been down long enough, paid their penance so to speak. Flordia has not been Flordia sine Tebow. Maybe it's all Richt's fault or bad karma, but they should have taken control of the East years ago. Georgia will win an SEC title or 2 in the next few years, but you can bet your arse it's not going to be easy.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:41 pm to Shoney
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Tennessee has been down long enough, paid their penance so to speak
Still doesn't mean you won't remain above mediocre at best.
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Maybe it's all Richt's fault or bad karma, but they should have taken control of the East years ago.
CMR had a lot to do with it.He did an unbelievably poor job recruiting between '10 and '13.Have no idea if he just got lazy,complacent or just sick
UGA's administration.
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Georgia will win an SEC title or 2 in the next few years, but you can bet your arse it's not going to be easy.
Of course not...all roads still go through Saban in the SEC and that's never easy.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:14 pm to RD Dawg
I believe Tennessee will be better than mediocre in a year or two. There will be some growing pains with Pruitt, he'll make mistakes. They all do when they get promoted to Chief. If you can coach though, you can coach, and all the people that I've heard that are supposed to know, say Pruitt is outstanding. He also recruits his arse off, so yea, my guess would be that Tennessee is going to get really good.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:00 pm to Shoney
It’s gonna come down to catching up to Bama and uga in recruiting. The rankings of this class should tell us a lot about that.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:37 pm to djsdawg
I think Pruitt will almost always pull top 5-10 classes starting with 2019 class. That's good enough, how much of a real difference is there in the 10th rated class and the top class. Maybe some of you boys that like analyzing stuff like that can do some research, I don't have the patience. The big thing is what you do with them when you get them. Look at Bama as example of the right way of doing it. Look at the USC Trojans to see a program loaded with talent, playing in a conference that they should dominate, that always plays way below their talent. I think Kirby and Pruitt are both really good at developing players.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:38 pm to koreandawg
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UGA, UF and A&M are the only schools that could build a conference champion/national champion on state talent alone.
Well, that sounds like an opinion. How many NC have came from those 3 states in the past decade?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:38 pm to Shoney
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That's good enough, how much of a real difference is there in the 10th rated class and the top class.
It can be a big difference. See 2017 and 18.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:25 pm to DawgsLife
They only look at your top 20. They took 19. Our top 19 was much better than their top 19. It was one of the widest gaps between 1 and 2 in the SEC in some time.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:34 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Bama high school players are underrated and it’s no surprise as so fricked II as AHSAA IS
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