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re: Recruting talent in each SEC state for 2018....
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:18 pm to koreandawg
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:18 pm to koreandawg
Maybe so regarding ESPN, though I've often found their top 300 pretty good. But, I would prefer almost anything to "one voice". So, I much prefer the 247 composite to using any of the 3 in isolation. In this case, their list appears more like what I instinctively anticipated, though for the most part there's not a great material difference. But to think that Texas only produced 2 5 stars in a year is highly unlikely, or that Mississippi only has 3 4 stars is ridiculous. Look at the tape yourself regarding Mississippi. They have several big time players at positions of importance - especially DL. IMO, Rivals has often had some bizarre takes.
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:19 pm to AshLSU
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No. Just, no.
Yes. Yes it is.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:21 pm to tattoo
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I was pleasantly surprised with Missouri's talent and disappointed in Arkansas and in Texas' lack of 4 and 5 star talent.
And this is our best instate class in maybe a decade.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:29 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Yep, that has certainly killed him and kept Bama from being all they can be.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:33 pm to koreandawg
That’s the same attitude I get from the Alabama board. There’s a happy medium. Take an Alabama kid that doesn’t meet all the criteria that a Texas or California kid does, who’s routinely transferred after 2 years in the past.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:50 pm to koreandawg
Texas, Florida, and Georgia aren't those the most populated states in the SEC
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:02 pm to TigerMeister
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but muh per capita
Lol are you implying that doesn’t mean anything?
I'll play
it doesn't mean anything
You need 50 excellent to very good players for a championship football team, 45 at a minimum
If Louisiana produces 3 or less 5*s and roughly 13 to 16 4*s per year, that means you have to keep 2/3 or better every year or rely on out of state guys or 3*s that wind up maturing well and working out
the benefits of having substantially more elite players in your backyard, especially 5*s, far outweighs any per capita benefits by a country mile
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:04 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Alabama could build a title contending team on in-state talent alone. NFL rosters reflect the amount of talent in Alabama.
Right now Alabama and Tennessee are pretty equal in high school talent.
Tennessee will surpass Alabama in the next 3-5 years.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:07 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Right now Alabama and Tennessee are pretty equal in high school talent.
Not it is not.
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Tennessee will surpass Alabama in the next 3-5 years.
No it won’t.
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:09 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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CapstoneGrad06
Yes it is.
Yes it will.
It's not a dig, I'm just stating the facts.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:23 pm to BigOrangeBri
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BigOrangeBri
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Right now Alabama and Tennessee are pretty equal in high school talent. Tennessee will surpass Alabama in the next 3-5 years.
I agree about the state production. But UT has 2 problems: one is geography, the other is that since much of your talent will come from the Nashville area, the kids will not be nearly as loyal to the instate school as kids from small town and rural areas. I.e., UT will have trouble keeping kids in their state. Whereas, almost nothing escapes Alabama that either Bama or AU really want. And Bama usually get about 80-90% of the Alabama kids that they really want. Historically, it has been about 70-75%, but at this point AU can't even be assured of all of their legacies (Rashan Evans) or AU HS kids (Reuben Foster). Though they will get most of them, but that's almost all they get that Bama really wants. Bama even gets most of the kids who grow up diehard AU fans, if they want them.
But UT's talent base will indeed grow as you've noted. You just need to get most of them. You will be helped by the fact that Pruitt is a great evaluator of talent, especially the secondary. And he has the guts to take less heralded players over more heralded when he determines that they are better. So, you will get 3 stars who will be very good. It still remains to be seen what kind of HC he will be, but he has several good HC qualities. He was a better position coach, DC, talent evaluator and recruiter than Smart, who was good, but Pruitt was very good to great. But HC requires a different skill set even though there is overlap.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:28 pm to BigOrangeBri
Georgia should feel nothing but shame. They should have gone to about 7 straight SEC Championship games. Ga fans crow about all that blue chip talent, but they forget that it just reminds people of what that program could've done the last 40 years. What we saw in 2017, all those athletes, when Bama and Ga played. It should've been round 7 or 8 instead of 1.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:32 pm to koreandawg
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Mississippi, 3 four stars
Lol..Mississippi has that many 5 star talents this year.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:38 pm to tattoo
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I agree about the state production. But UT has 2 problems: one is geography, the other is that since much of your talent will come from the Nashville area, the kids will not be nearly as loyal to the instate school as kids from small town and rural areas. I.e., UT will have trouble keeping kids in their state. Whereas, almost nothing escapes Alabama that either Bama or AU really want. And Bama usually get about 80-90% of the Alabama kids that they really want. Historically, it has been about 70-75%, but at this point AU can't even be assured of all of their legacies (Rashan Evans) or AU HS kids (Reuben Foster). Though they will get most of them, but that's almost all they get that Bama really wants. Bama even gets most of the kids who grow up diehard AU fans, if they want them.
Of course, Alabama is getting all the instate talent they want, they're on a historic run. Tennessee got some great players out of Alabama in the 90s and early 2000s.
The talent increase in middle TN is actually a good thing because in the past most of the talent was across the state in Memphis.
As long as Pruitt shows the program is moving in the right direction he will do very well in state. Will we lose some instate guys? Yes, but GA, FL, TX do as well.
Like I said in another thread, Pruitt will pick 8-10 instate guys that fit their program and then look elsewhere for the rest.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:48 pm to tattoo
Tennessee and Alabama may be pretty close when it comes to high school talent, but I think Alabama, for the most part, has very good coaching at the high school level. I think Tennessee is behind other states in this area. I think Ala has a lot of good coaches, some outstanding and some tha ain't worth shite. Tennessee has some good coaches, a few outstanding ones, and a lot that ain't worth a shite. Girls High Scool basketball coaching and instruction in Tennessee is great, there's also a lot of really good high school baseball coaching in East and Middle Tennessee. If I was Pruitt I would invite every coach in the state to 5 day clinc over the summer. Hell I don't know, that would probably be a violation. 
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:45 pm to tattoo
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I was shocked at South Carolina's lack of talent. I assume this is an off year.
That would be correct ... but what we are lacking in-state this year we will take out of Charlotte, so we're cool.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:50 pm to koreandawg
Someone needs to update you on real and accurate info. This is one of the top years for Mississippi in talent and you are not even close.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:16 pm to MullenBoys
You do understand that when I say recruiting for 2018 that means the 2018 class. Geeze.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:20 pm to koreandawg
No link. List is invalid
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:25 am to BigOrangeBri
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BigOrangeBri
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Of course, Alabama is getting all the instate talent they want, they're on a historic run. Tennessee got some great players out of Alabama in the 90s and early 2000s.
Historically, Bama has usually gotten most of the instate talent. The late 90s and early 00s were an aberration because of the only time in their history they've had that kind of dysfunction. You've never gotten that much Alabama talent before and likely won't ever again. Bama had fallen in the floor and couldn't get up for about 10 years - even though they had 3 10 win seasons and an SEC championship beating UF at their peak away from home twice in one season. Those were miracles.- the fans and especially the kids never quit.
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