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re: Real talk on Wade and Smart going forward in the tournament.

Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:50 am to
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The tape does not reference any specifics about the “offer,” if the particulars of the “offer” violated NCAA rules, if the player and/or his mother ever knew of the “offer” or if anyone accepted whatever the “offer” was.

It does not appear from this part of the call that Dawkins had any knowledge of what Wade is describing.

There is probably a LOT more on the 4,000 minutes that have not been released. Wade will likely refuse to testify under oath about anything because he doesn’t know what the FBI has on him...and we are all familiar with the term “perjury trap.” Furthermore he is not yet able to initiate discovery to find out what the FBI has because he hadn’t been formally charged yet (that is coming).

Taking the fifth or resorting to multiple “I don’t recall” will underline the problem. And once the “freaking strong offer” is defined or the fifth taken about it, Smart’s eligibility is forfeited. You all know what happens then regarding this season...and to anything that happens in the NCAAs.

I think it possible that the NCAA just doesn’t invite LSU to the tournament this year...letting them sit home to wail and gnash teeth. That would keep the tourney somewhat clean for everyone else. And What an epic melt that would be.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:54 am
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:54 am to
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I think it possible that the NCAA just doesn’t invite LSU to the tournament this year...letting them sit home a wail and gnash teeth. What an epic melt that would be.



holocaust like melt
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:58 am to
If they don't go, the AD will take "credit" for holding them out, not the NCAA.
Posted by Bengals18
Breaux Bridge Louisiana
Member since Dec 2015
243 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:59 am to
Wouldn't it be interesting if Smart could name all the universities and what enticements they offered?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34248 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:00 am to
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There is probably a LOT more on the 4,000 minutes that have not been released. Wade will likely refuse to testify under oath about anything because he doesn’t know what the FBI has on him...and we are all familiar with the term “perjury trap.” Furthermore he is not yet able to initiate discovery to find out what the FBI has because he hadn’t been formally charged yet (that is coming).

Taking the fifth or resorting to multiple “I don’t recall” will underline the problem. And once the “freaking strong offer” is defined or the fifth taken about it, Smart’s eligibility is forfeited. You all know what happens then regarding this season...and to anything that happens in the NCAAs.


The FBI didn't subpoena Wade.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:01 am to
He could, but he couldn't prove anything, PLUS he'd never coach major college ball again, so...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:01 am to
That’s actually not in Wade’s favor.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9924 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:02 am to
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Wade never coaches again at Lsu.

Where there is a WILL, there is a WADE!
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13027 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:02 am to
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That would keep the tourney somewhat clean for everyone else.

The best part about the last few days is LSU went from a nice team to a national championship front runner who may be disqualified OMFG!
Media dramatization at its finest.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34248 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:03 am to
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That’s actually not in Wade’s favor.


Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21788 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:16 am to
Wade out - never coming back. Who knows on Smart
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:30 am to
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State your opinion. No bullshite...no trolling.

That conversations on the wiretap phone conversations are pretty serious and I would imagine the LSU Compliance Office is going to make some pretty unpopular decisions.

IMHO, Wade will never coach again at LSU. It would not shock me at this moment his lawyer and agent are working on a buyout.

IMHO, Smart will be sitting out...will not play in the SEC or NCAAs.

Let’s go. Go on the record.
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It would not shock me at this moment his lawyer and agent are working on a buyout.
Negotiating a buyout before Wade has even answered a single question LSU Admin has asked?

LSU should stick to their guns if they're dealing with Wade's lawyer/agent - because at first glimpse LSU can terminate his employment with cause.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 11:52 am
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47793 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:31 am to
Real talk/State your own opinion.

Hmmmm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:50 am to
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1. Smart is reinstated on Tuesday.

2. Will Wade is reinstated on May 1, 2019, with a reprimand from LSU.

3. YahooSports reports are not evidence of wrongdoing.

4. Those tapes will never be made public in a way that we can all trust is accurate. As in the first legal proceedings, they and the so-called transcripts are not admissible as evidence in the legal case.


Well my God, Wade is good to go - LSU's sitting pretty and there's literally no reason why Wade was ever suspended or Smart either. The NCAA surely can't use inadmissible material that the highest court in the land won't accept in court to hammer a member institution, can they?

I had no idea the additional wiretaps weren't admissible to the courts.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73470 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:57 am to
It will be announced on Tuesday that Smart will be allowed to play.

There are way too many unknown factors to even guess if and when Wade will coach LSU.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:57 am to
Of course LSU officials do not want to give Wade a damn dime with cause...but you and I know Wade and his lawyers will take them to court to get the remainder of his contract. The LSU lawyers are going to have to expose him on the stand with all of his violations he committed (which maybe a hell a lot more then what he said on the wiretap)...which could cripple the basketball program.

It is probably cheaper to give him something and cut ties...try to keep more shite getting out. There are rumblings that Reid maybe caught up in this mess.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13027 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:00 pm to
My only regret is LSU has completely distracted you from the great season Kentucky is having.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:00 pm to
Lulz, LSU fans better realize the NCAA is not a court of law. All they need is confirmed transcripts of conversations.

Wade is toast. Just like Self and Miller. Louisville is hoping the self imposed sanctions will soften the blow on top of the stripper gate.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:01 pm to
My only regret is your gossiping school girl Nancy coach has distracted you from a tarnished season LSU is having.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:02 pm to
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Of course LSU officials do not want to give Wade a damn dime with cause...but you and I know Wade and his lawyers will take them to court to get the remainder of his contract. The LSU lawyers are going to have to expose him on the stand with all of his violations he committed (which maybe a hell a lot more then what he said on the wiretap)...which could cripple the basketball program.

It is probably cheaper to give him something and cut ties...try to keep more shot getting out. They are rumblings that Reid maybe caught up in this mess.

Obviously money is no issue for LSU Athletics, and you may be right. They may just want to work a settlement, cut bait and show the NCAA they are trying to foster an environment of compliance in the event the NCAA decides to dig their heels in hard with an investigation.

LSU would no doubt be pissed at having to pay CWW to terminate his contract AND then have to fork out millions in attny fees to lawyer up for an NCAA investigation.

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