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re: Ranking the Nick Saban coaching tree

Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Kirby59
Rocket City
Member since Nov 2016
1001 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:25 am to
No Napier. List is shite
Posted by AshleySchaeffer
Lake Placid, Fl
Member since Sep 2015
1266 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:32 am to
No Sunbelt Billy? List is invalid. Shame.

Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9739 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:41 am to
Jimbo Fisher is from the Terry Bowden tree. These coaching tree lists are crap. Kiffen had already been a head coach before coaching for Saban. He truly comes from the Monte Kiffen tree.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
26093 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:44 am to
Yeah, the rehabilitation crap doesn’t mean they are part of his tree. He simply saved some of those coaches from a dumpster
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3566 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:48 am to
It’s weird his biggest coaching mentors according to lane are saban Carroll and monte. All defensive coaches yet lanes an offensive guy.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17850 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:49 am to
No Muschamp?
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1549 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:53 am to
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He simply saved some of those coaches from a dumpster


Negative. He changed the way they think about running a program and Lane would tell you that in a heartbeat. Cignetti said he learned more how to run a program in one yearn under Saban than he did in his previous 20 years. Saban ran his program like a highly successful fortune 500 company. Every aspect of the program was paid attention to in high detail. These coaches like Lane just didn't come in under Saban and "lay low" until everything blew over. They learned how to run a successful football program.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 11:54 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:00 pm to
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If you're going to include Jimbo and Sharky you have to include Muschamp and Napier

This appears to just be a top 10 list.

There's also Applewhite, Cochran, Daboll, Dantonio, Dooley, Gase, Haywood, Huff, Kelly, Locksley, Mortenson, Pruitt, Shurmur, Taylor, etc.

Plus one-year guys like Tom Amstutz, Geoff Collins, Freddie Kitchens, Josh McDaniels, and NFL guys like Jason Garrett, Scott Linehan, and Dan Quinn if you really want to get into the weeds.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
8267 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:02 pm to
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you have to include Muschamp and Napier.
Champ, yes.

Napier is a joke
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19435 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:08 pm to
Obviously biased but no way Kirby isn’t first.

2 back to back titles built from recruiting and development in the proto/pre NIL unlimited transfer era > an assembled $30M roster of proven performers.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
26093 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:11 pm to
Lane Kiffin and Sarkisian were failed coaches before working with Saban. They don't count
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 12:20 pm
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4155 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:59 pm to
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He’s been coaching for 10 years and it took him 6 to win his first? Cignetti went undefeated and won it in 2.
Cignetti has been a head coach since 2011 so technically it took him 15 years to win his first.
Posted by Restoringtheground
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2023
342 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:29 pm to
How many NC’s did Saban beat Kirby for? I know 1 for sure in 2017 and/or 2018?

Then Kirby ran into 2019 LSU and 2020 Bama.

Cignetti didn’t have to go head to head with Prime Saban. That’s a huge difference.

Take Saban out in 2016, and Kirby has 3 or 4 titles at least.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
4506 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:31 pm to
Sark sucks but he has at least coached in 2 CFP to Kiffin's 0
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39280 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:35 pm to
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Jimbo Fisher is from the Terry Bowden tree. These coaching tree lists are crap. Kiffen had already been a head coach before coaching for Saban. He truly comes from the Monte Kiffen tree.


Cignetti had been an assistant coach for over 20 years before he was hired by Saban.

Said he learned more in the first year with Saban than he had the 20 years prior.

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19041 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Lane Kiffin and Sarkisian were failed coaches before working with Saban. They don't count


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failed coaches


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before working with Saban


So working for Saban seems to have improved their careers. I'm not certain you really thought that out before typing it
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
3560 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:46 pm to
Dude, recency bias in that ranking. #2 has more NCs than #1.
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