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re: Rank the SEC Coaching Jobs

Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:11 pm to
That is normally true, but Louisiana was clearly superior to Lsu this season and it wasn’t close.
Posted by BamaIsGoat
Member since Jan 2021
291 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:55 pm to
LSU loves to bring up the “in state recruiting”

Bama doesn’t need in state recruiting. We go all over the country and get the best.

Notice I said we. I’m on the team
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9679 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:03 am to
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Alabama has had the benefit of landing two of the GOAT coaches.


Well I'll be damned I think you cracked it: If not for great coaches coaching great players, you don't win as much.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:03 am to
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Well I'll be damned I think you cracked it: If not for great coaches coaching great players, you don't win as much.


Gotta find some way to take out the 12 combined championships those 2 coaches won in their 40 years here.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 3:39 am to
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There is just as much of a chance that The LSU program falls back into the depths of Pre Saban mediocrity, than sustain what you have accomplished the last few years. 


Maybe but Saban has been gone 15 years at this point.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 3:43 am to
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“Outside of Saban & Bryant”

Take away any teams best 30-40 years and see how good they are.

What a ridiculously stupid argument.



Lets take away LSU's two best coaches and compare championships. I bet its very similar to what Bama did without theirs.

Bama, as a program, has no advantage over any other "large" program. I get that Bammers and even you Aggies want to beat your chests about "muh program" but its more about having Saban and Bryant than being Alabama.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:08 am to
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Lets take away LSU's two best coaches and compare championships. I bet its very similar to what Bama did without theirs.

Bama, as a program, has no advantage over any other "large" program. I get that Bammers and even you Aggies want to beat your chests about "muh program" but its more about having Saban and Bryant than being Alabama.


This is such a stupid take other than you getting upset at Ranters almost unmistakably having Bama as the top job in SEC. I'm not sure why you brought up the taking away two coaches. Hell people can counter that both didn't have the same level of success prior to Bama. I think it works both ways that program and coaches on same page equal long term success.
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Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:28 am to
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This is such a stupid take other than you getting upset at Ranters almost unmistakably having Bama as the top job in SEC


I'm not upset about it, just stating that no one has given a reason why Alabama itself is better than any other top program.

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I'm not sure why you brought up the taking away two coaches


Because you havent read the entire topic.

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Hell people can counter that both didn't have the same level of success prior to Bama.


I mean Saban won a title very quickly at notoriously mediocre LSU. Do you think he couldn't have had similar success at LSU as he did at Alabama?
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 4:45 am
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:46 am to
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Because you havent read the entire topic.



Not saying you opinion is wrong but Bama is widely considered a Top 4 Job in CFB. Probably Top job in SEC.

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I mean Saban won a title very quickly at notoriously mediocre LSU. Do you think he couldn't have had similar success at LSU as he did at Alabama?



No one is saying he wouldn't but having hindsight that situation never happened so we never know. Saban averaged 3.5 losses a year at LSU in 5 years. Bama has benefited from Saban perfecting his progress but make no mistake about Bama influence and reach in this conference. Bama could easily act like a Texas or tOSU but they don't do heavy handed tactics to hurt other teams.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:52 am to
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Not saying you opinion is wrong but Bama is widely considered a Top 4 Job in CFB. Probably Top job in SEC.


I'd say those people aren't using good parameters for what a top job is then.

I could argue that Florida, Georgia, LSU, and Texas A&M are better jobs post Saban for various reasons.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:59 am to
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I could argue that Florida, Georgia, LSU, and Texas A&M are better jobs post Saban for various reasons.




Based on what exactly... in state recruiting? That's one of most overrated things people say on here. Each year fans lose their minds because a homegrown goes out of state. Maybe LSU gets a little bit more because of having the only P5 in Louisiana but I think it works against them also.

Every team you have listed has aleast 5 P5s in their sphere of influence.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:06 am to
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That's one of most overrated things people say on here. 


What makes Alabama a better job than any of the teams I listed?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119116 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:26 am to
Yeah, you are wrong about some of those.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2917 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:08 am to
Bama is the top job if you are a top echelon coach. Otherwise, it’s a nightmare: fan expectations and the deep shadow of history are difficult to overcome.

It is survival of the fittest.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:21 am to
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Bama is the top job if you are a top echelon coach


Why?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:25 am to
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Why?

Money
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:33 am to
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Money


What do you mean? According to 247 Sports, Alabama is like the 9th "richest program" in the country.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:44 am to
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What do you mean? According to 247 Sports, Alabama is like the 9th "richest program" in the country.

Yet we had the highest paid coaching staff, excluding the HC, in 2019. Constantly updating the football facilities, will pay the HC pretty much anything he wants if he's good enough, unlimited recruiting budget, etc.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 8:46 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:50 am to
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Yet we had the highest paid coaching staff, excluding the HC, in 2019.


And Clemson did in 2020.

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Constantly updating the football facilities,


247 doesn't even rank your facilities top 5 in the country.

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will pay the HC pretty much anything he wants 


Nothing you listed is exclusive to Alabama.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
1068 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:08 am to
I'm assuming by "Alabama" you mean when CNS leaves.

Just having to follow the best coach of his generation is going to have potential coaches take pause, so I'm not so sure the job itself is as great as is made out to be.
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