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re: Post 11,000: Tommy Tuberville Would Play 2004 Team Against ANY NC Team
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:57 am to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:57 am to CapstoneGrad06
Bama soundly beat 3 undefeated teams to win their 3 BCSCGs and at one point had like a 69-0 run. No other team can make that claim, nor will any future team.
Plus, Bama represented the SEC by not blowing leads and ending the streak.
Probably shouldn't blame them though, they're not used to such heady stuff.
Plus, Bama represented the SEC by not blowing leads and ending the streak.
Probably shouldn't blame them though, they're not used to such heady stuff.
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:58 am to CapstoneGrad06
Timing, more than not, is close to a 3rd when it comes to winning a Championship in CFB. 2004 Auburn was a good team, but timing wasn't on their side. Plus, their schedule and close games hurt them in the end. If your going to go undefeated while being 1 of 3 BCS programs at seasons end. 1st) Make sure you win your tough games convincingly. 2nd) Try to go undefeated in a year when there's only one or two undefeated legit teams. There's that pesky timing thing again 3rd) If there happens to be 3 teams undefeated, try not to lose the 2 previous years to one of the teams in question. I mean really, what did anyone think was going to happen when those 2 other programs are huge, prime-beef, within CFB's world? Even with Bama's CFB prestige, Bama would need their resume right when the two other teams are Oklahoma & USC at seasons end. Anyways, 1983 Auburn has got a way better argument for being Champions than 2004 Auburn does.
Auburn,
Welcome to a long-line of what if club, and 1966 Bama has a seat all ready for you. Many great CFB teams throughout CFB's history didn't reach the mountaintop
Auburn,
Welcome to a long-line of what if club, and 1966 Bama has a seat all ready for you. Many great CFB teams throughout CFB's history didn't reach the mountaintop
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:01 am to AubieALUMdvm
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The 2004 Auburn team would beat any Bama team in the last 10 years by at least 10 pts.
BS...sayin' it don't make it so. No one knows because there's no way they can play, but your 2004 team didn't even beat Bama's 2004 team by 10 (y'all won by 8). Yes, Auburn should've been in over Oklahoma in 2004 and yes, Auburn would've played a more competitive game than OU, but that doesn't mean y'all would've beaten USC...
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 8:02 am
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:05 am to SquirrelyBama
Look at the 2004 Auburn schedule and name all of the close games you're talking about?
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:06 am to OldPete
I like how bama fans celebrated not getting blown out by AU in 2004.
It was like their biggest accomplishment in a long time and they were so happy to just be able to get that last second TD and 2 point conversion to only lose by 8.
It was like their biggest accomplishment in a long time and they were so happy to just be able to get that last second TD and 2 point conversion to only lose by 8.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:10 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I like how bama fans celebrated not getting blown out by AU in 2004.
If you'll read the full content of my post instead of cherry-picking, genius, I'm not celebrating anything. I'm answering one of your own who said they'd beat any Bama team by at least 10 since then...and as your 2004 team only beat ours by 8, I think I'm pretty secure in thinking that Bama's had better teams since 2004...
Edited to add: While we scored a TD in the last few minutes, we did not go for 2...we were up 6-0 at halftime and y'all beat us 21-13...
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 8:28 am
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:23 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
You mean like the moral victory AU had in 2009 to play so well against an eventual conference champion in Alabama? That's a pretty natural reaction in a season filled with dissapointment.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:26 am to undecided
I think the FSU/Miami issue in the late 90s and the LSU/USC issue in 03 were just as important in pushing the idea of a playoff. The Auburn 04 snub was just another piece of evidence that the system, while better, was still broken.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:35 am to Paul Allen
01 Miami overrated
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:56 am to kudzoo
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Bama soundly beat 3 undefeated teams to win their 3 BCSCGs and at one point had like a 69-0 run. No other team can make that claim, nor will any future team.
Garrett Gilbert, Jordan Jefferson, Everett Golson.
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Bama represented the SEC by not blowing leads and ending the streak
Actually bama didn't represent the SEC because they blew a 21-7 lead and ended their own streak.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:59 am to SquirrelyBama
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their schedule and close games hurt them in the end.
You mean the schedule that was more difficult than USC and OU? Or the one close game we played all year?
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1st) Make sure you win your tough games convincingly
The two toughest games we played all year @UT we were up 31-0 at halftime and top 5 UGA we were up 24-0 until they scored 6 with like a minute left.
I may have never seen a bigger fail than your #1 point.
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3rd) If there happens to be 3 teams undefeated, try not to lose the 2 previous years to one of the teams in question
But bama can lose to one of the teams in question in the same season, at home, and we just gloss over that?
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:02 am to OldPete
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Edited to add: While we scored a TD in the last few minutes, we did not go for 2...we were up 6-0 at halftime and y'all beat us 21-13...
True. And we scored 21 points on three straight drives in the 3rd Q to put it away as well. Then Tubs did his Tubershell instead of running up the score like he should have.
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I think I'm pretty secure in thinking that Bama's had better teams since 2004...
Yep. Better teams. But none that would have beaten 2004 AU. Only 1 went undefeated and is even in the discussion. And IMO, 2004 beats 2009 Bama 30-17.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:05 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Hypothetical scenarios between great teams over different seasons is pointless but one thing that is inarguable is that based on what actually happened on the field the 2004 AU team was the best in the SEC during the BCS era.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:08 am to AUtigerNOLA
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2008 Florida Gators one of the GOAT national champs for sure.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:13 am to SpartyGator
You lost to Ole Miss gtfo, the only team really in recent times that has a decent argument against 04 AU is 96 Florida.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:14 am to RandySavage
Randy,
All that can be said of 2004 AU was that they went undefeated and didn't play for the MNC.
Those are the facts.
Anything you add is pure conjuncture .
All that can be said of 2004 AU was that they went undefeated and didn't play for the MNC.
Those are the facts.
Anything you add is pure conjuncture .
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:02 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Yep. Better teams. But none that would have beaten 2004 AU. Only 1 went undefeated and is even in the discussion. And IMO, 2004 beats 2009 Bama 30-17.
Makes no sense...you admit that post-2004 Bama had better teams...yet, in your opinion, the 2004 Auburn team would've beaten an undefeated 2009 Bama team by 5 more points than they beat a 6-5 (with a losing record in the SEC) 2004 Bama team? But then again, many of the posts here on the Rant are pretty much a bunch of opinions that no one can prove any way, so I guess you're par for the course...
Tuberville actually said it much better though; they'd win some and lose some...
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:02 am to Herman Frisco
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Randy,
All that can be said of 2004 AU was that they went undefeated and didn't play for the MNC.
Those are the facts.
Anything you add is pure conjuncture.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:05 am to OldPete
2011 Bama beats 04 Auburn
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:19 am to Herman Frisco
Some people forget the whole timing thing from my post above. The timing of things and situations makes most stuff different from season to season. Sorry, I don't make things the way they are.......
Plus, Auburn didn't have many opportunities to impress in 2004. Who did Auburn play in the 2004 SEC Championship game? That's part of my point. Maybe playing an undefeated Florida in the SEC title game would've gotten 2004 Auburn into the BCS Title game. Bama has been fortunate with the timing of things lining up right during great seasons. What happens any given season in CFB changes what might work one year compared to any other given season. There's that timing thing again, darn it. Auburn had a slight chance to split the 2004 title, but they looked avg against Bama, Tenn, and VT at seasons end. Now,1992 Bama had close games that season, but when it matter most. Bama left no doubt against Miami in the Sugar Bowl and took total advantage of the opportunity. Bama had a close game against Tennessee in 2009, but again. When it mattered most, Bama handled Florida & Texas at seasons end while leaving no doubt. Timing and your team stepping up at the right time matters a bunch in CFB, that simple. Auburn would've experienced this kind of ending if they would've finished the deal -vs- FSU last year. The timing was right but Auburn didn't seize the moment. The SEC won 7 straight Titles(Timing matters) and the reputation helps any SEC team. This timing also helped Auburn get into the BCS title game last year over other one lose teams. The SEC back in 2004 had a different vibe going on big time. So Auburn not getting the nod wasn't to shocking.
https://www.totalfootballstats.com/ConferenceStandings.asp?id=79&Season=2004
Plus, Auburn didn't have many opportunities to impress in 2004. Who did Auburn play in the 2004 SEC Championship game? That's part of my point. Maybe playing an undefeated Florida in the SEC title game would've gotten 2004 Auburn into the BCS Title game. Bama has been fortunate with the timing of things lining up right during great seasons. What happens any given season in CFB changes what might work one year compared to any other given season. There's that timing thing again, darn it. Auburn had a slight chance to split the 2004 title, but they looked avg against Bama, Tenn, and VT at seasons end. Now,1992 Bama had close games that season, but when it matter most. Bama left no doubt against Miami in the Sugar Bowl and took total advantage of the opportunity. Bama had a close game against Tennessee in 2009, but again. When it mattered most, Bama handled Florida & Texas at seasons end while leaving no doubt. Timing and your team stepping up at the right time matters a bunch in CFB, that simple. Auburn would've experienced this kind of ending if they would've finished the deal -vs- FSU last year. The timing was right but Auburn didn't seize the moment. The SEC won 7 straight Titles(Timing matters) and the reputation helps any SEC team. This timing also helped Auburn get into the BCS title game last year over other one lose teams. The SEC back in 2004 had a different vibe going on big time. So Auburn not getting the nod wasn't to shocking.
https://www.totalfootballstats.com/ConferenceStandings.asp?id=79&Season=2004
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 10:53 am
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