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re: Playing at Alabama does not help players like Tua get ready for the NFL

Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:34 am to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:34 am to
quote:

remember a ton of posters saying McCarron was going to be better than Cam.

Oh please

How many of those weren’t Bama fans?

I mean we have fans that think Bentley is better than Tua
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 11:35 am
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5712 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:38 am to
If Tua has limited success in the NFL it will likely be due to durability issues. He has some improvements to make, but so do all QB rookies.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14220 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:38 am to
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Link to this factual data.

LINK

Here is just one. Your fanbase kills each other over games. That alone puts you at the top.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:38 am to
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I don't understand why elite QBs with NFL aspirations play at Alabama. You have the best offensive linemen and the best WRs in the country.


Im waiting for the Jerry Juedy thread.

"I don't understand why elite WRs with NFL aspirations play at Alabama. You have the best offensive linemen and the best QB in the country etc etc
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:41 am to
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LINK /

Here is just one. Your fanbase kills each other over games. That alone puts you at the top.



Your "data" is a column but a Tennessee fan.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
12431 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:44 am to
That was an opinion, I said facts.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39834 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:49 am to
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AJ McCarron was the epitome of a mediocre QB surrounded by insane talent. It was a complete joke he was drafted as high as he was, and an even bigger joke he was considered for the Heisman. One of the most overrated players in CFB history, IMO.


The year he was in New York for the Heisman he threw 30 touchdowns and 3 interceptions. Marquis Maze and Darius Hanks were two of his primary receivers during his time at Alabama. Mccarron was insanely efficient and is still employed to play football.

What a steaming pile of word vomit you just expelled
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:04 pm to
Can you imagine really believing that elite QBs should go to lesser college programs to better prepare themselves for the NFL?





Posted by Bamad
Calera, AL
Member since May 2010
5316 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:04 pm to
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When was the last time an Alabama qb did anything in the NFL? Kenny Stabler?



When was the last time an LSU QB did anything?
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1615 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:16 pm to
Players from Alabama have the reputation of being Pro ready when they arrive by most standards. This increases their draft status, signing bonus and contract negotiations. They are paid very well up front JUST on the pretense that they played at Alabama, even if they don’t pan out.
If they went to another school that doesn’t have the reputation of an Alabama they probably slip through the cracks and are drafted in a lower round resulting in less pay out of the gate and with injuries being a huge part of longevity, I’d like mine up front.
SO, playing at Alabama certainly has its perks.
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26971 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:05 pm to
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If only you knew how stupid Bama fans are. You think after years of all the jokes and polls about dumbest fanbases it would sink in but not with yall. One of you pops up and pats the other on the back and suddenly you think it's just everyone else again.



That's fine. But you're dumber than all of them.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21089 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Here is just one. Your fanbase kills each other over games. That alone puts you at the top.

How many players you had murdered by locals? Didn't know they made glass house double wides
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51987 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:12 pm to
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If Tua has limited success in the NFL it will likely be due to durability issues. He has some improvements to make, but so do all QB rookies.


Tua's skillset is extremely similar to Russell Wilson. I think he's going to be very good.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:14 pm to
I'm not sure he's quite the runner (both ability to break the edge and ability to take hits) that Wilson is, but he has a very similar outside the pocket field vision skillset.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51987 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure he's quite the runner (both ability to break the edge and ability to take hits) that Wilson is, but he has a very similar outside the pocket field vision skillset.


He's not, and he doesn't have as strong of an arm (Wilson has a cannon).

Tua moves extremely well inside the pocket and can make plays outside of it when he has to. He has really good pocket awareness and is extremely accurate.

I don't think he will be as good as Wilson, but that's not a slight. That's the most similar comparison that I can make to a current starter. I think he will be a starter for a long time though.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 1:19 pm
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

remember a ton of posters saying McCarron was going to be better than Cam.



I dont remember this at all. I thought McCarron would have a good NFL career and hell the guy is one of the 100 best QBs in the country now. He played very well when he subbed for Dalton and if not for that boneheaded play by whatshisface for the Bengals he would have won the first Bengals playoff game in forever
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:21 pm to
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He's not, and he doesn't have as strong of an arm (Wilson has a cannon).

Tua moves extremely well inside the pocket and can make plays outside of it when he has to. He has really good pocket awareness and is extremely accurate.

I don't think he will be as good as Wilson, but that's not a slight. I think he will be a starter for a long time though.




I think this year is pretty huge for him in terms of his draft stock. If he gets banged up and doesn't show improvement on reads/conventional QB play I think he'll take a pretty big hit. He's a QB, so he won't drop too far, but I could see that stuff lead to questions about other ridiculous things (as the draft does) and he drops to mid/late 1st round.

Personally, the things I want to see this year are a combination of system tweaks (which I expect with Sark) and Tua's reads and decisions. The problem is it won't REALLY show up until possible A&M and if not then not until LSU.

He's currently in that 2nd phase of a QB who hits the scene and takes it by storm : 1st phase is overhype (greatest ever! never seen anything like it before! best QB in a decade! #1 pick!) and 2nd phase is "well actually" (he's not THAT good, it's all the guys around him, his hands are small, he's not a NFL QB). As usual, the truth is somewhere in between.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8921 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:25 pm to
Being a vagina doesn't get you ready for the NFL
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:26 pm to
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I dont remember this at all. I thought McCarron would have a good NFL career and hell the guy is one of the 100 best QBs in the country now. He played very well when he subbed for Dalton and if not for that boneheaded play by whatshisface for the Bengals he would have won the first Bengals playoff game in forever


Good QB if you can keep the defense off him is what I took from his NFL time.

His fumbles were sad.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51987 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:28 pm to
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I dont remember this at all. I thought McCarron would have a good NFL career and hell the guy is one of the 100 best QBs in the country now. He played very well when he subbed for Dalton and if not for that boneheaded play by whatshisface for the Bengals he would have won the first Bengals playoff game in forever


He had a couple of turnovers and only a couple hundred yards passing for them. He wasn't bad, but "very well" is a stretch.

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