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re: Playing at Alabama does not help players like Tua get ready for the NFL
Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:24 am to Vegetative State
Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:24 am to Vegetative State
quote:The same reason as any other 5* that comes there. The money and cars. The smart ones just take it and transfer out.
I don't understand why elite QBs with NFL aspirations play at Alabama.
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:26 am to Rabern57
Holy shite you are dumb.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:27 am to TTsTowel
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I think he means out of HS...
Dating back to Star Jackson, Alabama has had a ton of “elite” HS quarterbacks sign there. Even some 5* guys. Blake Barnett, Tua, Phil Sims, Cooper Bateman, David Cornwell, etc.
And how many of those elite QBs out of high school ever got any kind of love from NFL scouts other than Tua? I'll answer that question for you - none. There's a reason why Star Jackson, Blake Barnett, Phillip Sims, and the others never amounted to anything in college. They were all overrated coming out of high school. After they transferred, did they succeed at any other school? No.
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AJ McCarron was the epitome of a mediocre QB surrounded by insane talent. It was a complete joke he was drafted as high as he was, and an even bigger joke he was considered for the Heisman. One of the most overrated players in CFB history, IMO.
Mediocre QBs don't put up the numbers McCarron did. I don't care if they're surrounded by talent or not. Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee were mediocre QBs surrounded by talent and they played like mediocre QBs play. McCarron was a very good college QB that didn't quite have the tools for a pro career.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:49 am to Vegetative State
Its amazing that with Alabama totally dominating the recruiting trail for over 10 years. Basically hand picking any player they want, not one QB in the NFL playing. Not one
Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:53 am to LanierSpots
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Not one
McCarron is on the Texans
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 6:54 am
Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:56 am to Vegetative State
It’s almost like there are only 32 starting spots in the NFL and some guys hold on to them for over a decade
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:02 am to I Bleed Garnet
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McCarron is on the Texans
Is he playing? Im not talking about carrying a clip board. I mean playing.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:17 am to Vegetative State
QBs who play for Bama are only interested in college careers. They all know that the NFL isn't a viable option.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:17 am to TTsTowel
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AJ McCarron was the epitome of a mediocre QB surrounded by insane talent. It was a complete joke he was drafted as high as he was, and an even bigger joke he was considered for the Heisman. One of the most overrated players in CFB history, IMO. And I don’t think Blake Sims gets the notoriety he should. What he and Lane Kiffin did together was nothing short of amazing. The same thing can be said for a true freshman in Jalen Hurts
There are some hot takes in here. Penalize AJ for actually winning something with that elite talent, praise the dudes who couldn’t get anything done with the same elite talent.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:18 am to LanierSpots
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Is he playing? Im not talking about carrying a clip board. I mean playing.
No he’s not
I misread your statement sorry.
Egg on my face
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:26 am to Vegetative State
I call it the Miami Syndrome. Back in the late 80’s and 90’s when the Canes had all that great talent, the QB’s looked better than actually were and as a result, several of them were drafted high but never were very good in the NFL. Mind you they were good QB’s but not great. Jim Kelly played for Miami in the early 80’s before they were loaded.
Generally, QB’s who were talented but learned to improvise and make quick decisions ended up being great NFL QB’s.
A couple of examples would be Brett Favre (USM) and Drew Brees (Purdue) and there are plenty of others.
Generally, QB’s who were talented but learned to improvise and make quick decisions ended up being great NFL QB’s.
A couple of examples would be Brett Favre (USM) and Drew Brees (Purdue) and there are plenty of others.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:31 am to TTsTowel
quote:I assume his college hardware, NC rings, hot wife, $8.8 million in earnings over the past 5 seasons, and new $3 million ($2.5 mill guaranteed) 1 yr contract with the Texans will have to suffice in helping him compensate for his mediocrity.
AJ McCarron was the epitome of a mediocre QB surrounded by insane talent.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:33 am to Vegetative State
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Vegetative State
After seeing your first post, I wish you were in a vegetative state.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:34 am to Godawgs4
I think the same could be said about USC QBs
Carson Palmer is their best all time.
For a first overall pick, I wouldn’t say he’s had an Elite career
Carson Palmer is their best all time.
For a first overall pick, I wouldn’t say he’s had an Elite career
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:49 am to Godawgs4
The problem for most QB's coming out of college, is that they've been managed their whole football life. The coach calls the play, and there's no room for the QB to then read the defense and adjust the play at the line based on what the QB sees.
It's get the play, run the play and wait for the next play to be given to you. A college coach isn't going to trust a 20 year old kid to understand everything he's seeing and let him decide on his own how to react going forward - unless that kid is prenaturally intelligent about the game like a Peyton Manning.
Mostly, it's just a catch and throw type of offense coaches run. So, a college QB doesn't learn how to dissect a defense until he's asked to start doing it at the NFL level.
It's similar to wide receivers who never learn to run the whole route tree and struggle in the pros.
It's get the play, run the play and wait for the next play to be given to you. A college coach isn't going to trust a 20 year old kid to understand everything he's seeing and let him decide on his own how to react going forward - unless that kid is prenaturally intelligent about the game like a Peyton Manning.
Mostly, it's just a catch and throw type of offense coaches run. So, a college QB doesn't learn how to dissect a defense until he's asked to start doing it at the NFL level.
It's similar to wide receivers who never learn to run the whole route tree and struggle in the pros.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:01 am to Vegetative State
Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:09 am to Godawgs4
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Back in the late 80’s and 90’s when the Canes had all that great talent, the QB’s looked better than actually were and as a result, several of them were drafted high but never were very good in the NFL.
Bernie Kosar and Vinny Testaverde might not be in the Hall of Fame, but they were both long-term starters who made the Pro Bowl on multiple occasions. There were misses, however, as Gino Torretta and Steve Walsh both had sub-par/non-existent pro careers.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:12 am to Vegetative State
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Tua would have been much better served at a school where he was forced to win games because his defense sucked.
I know this is a troll thread but this made me laugh
Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:20 am to Vegetative State
Tua will be a top 5 pick
Whatever happens after that is not Bama’s fault
Whatever happens after that is not Bama’s fault
Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:32 am to Rabern57
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McCarron was the closest he ever came.
I remember a ton of posters saying McCarron was going to be better than Cam.
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