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re: Pete Maravich will always be the GOAT player in my eyes

Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:36 am to
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
2463 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:36 am to
ABA Dan. NBA Pete. Enough said.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130302 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:36 am to
Great pure shooter
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
2463 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:57 am to
I can’t believe I’m defending a LSU player but Maravich was different. You are showing your ignorance as to basketball players and history
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1055 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:02 am to
great, mesmerizing individual player. but selfish. it's why his teams never won anything meaningful
Posted by Hawglicious
Arkansas River Valley
Member since Jan 2022
1149 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:08 am to
For me, the best thing about Pete was that he became a Christian a couple years before he died.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58831 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:35 am to
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selfish


You can pass the ball all day but if you pass it to a guy who can't shoot, you usually don't win.


(Exception may be Dean Smith's "stall ball" where final scores could be single digits, which is why we have the shot clock now. Four Corners CBB was a insult to the game.)
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20543 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:48 am to
"Selfish"? You're showing your absolute ignorance about college basketball back then. Those teams didn't lose because of Pete shooting too much. Coach Press made a very conscious & well known decision to emphasize Pete, all of his game. During his 3 years, he mabe had 2 other teammates who might have made one starting lineup around the rest of the league. Over those 3 years. There is not one college or pro coach who ever said anything negative about his game. Magic & Bob Cousey, to only name 2 HOF'ers , both raved about his game & that game didn't just develop once he left college.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:53 am to
Man, if he was in college for 3 years instead of being a one and done, he must have been pretty bad.
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1055 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Coach Press made a very conscious & well known decision to emphasize Pete, all of his game.


whatever you need to think to make yourself feel better. basketball is a team game. not an individual game. again, it's why LSU didn't win anything of significance during Maravich's time there
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15438 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:26 am to
What did LSU as a team average per game over the 3 seasons Pistol Pete played?
Posted by Notrub14
New York City
Member since Dec 2018
958 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:22 pm to
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This might be the most ignorant statement on this site in ages. We could compare stats, but it would be pointless as it is laughably in Maravich's favor. Lets do one anyway. Maravich could have skipped his senior season in which he averaged 44.5 a game and still had more career points, made more all-american teams, and been SEC player of the year more times than Issel.


You're showing that you don't know anything about basketball if you're claiming points scored per game is the end all be all of evaluating a player. Issel was a better player in college and better in the NBA.

In his NBA career (excluding the years he played in the ABA) Issel's win shares per 48 min were .177. Maravich's career win shares per 48 min were .092; he didn't have a single season where he even matched Issel's career number of .177.

Issel was a better player in that he helped his teams win much more than Maravich did. Maravich just wasn't very good at basketball if being good at basketball means contributing to your team winning basketball games. Wasn't at LSU and wasn't in the NBA.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18138 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:30 pm to
Still couldn't beat Kentucky even once.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
933 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 7:32 am to
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This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 8:56 am
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 7:42 am to
I met Pete at Smokies. Really a nice dude. I was nervous and he was cool. I was a young punk so I didn't know any better.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
8713 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:06 am to
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LSU has more SEC championships


Nope, they're tied with Alabama. Alabama also has 6 more SEC tournament championships. Leads the head to head, has more overall wins and has a higher winning percentage.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10692 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 12:51 pm to
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You're showing that you don't know anything about basketball if you're claiming points scored per game is the end all be all of evaluating a player. Issel was a better player in college and better in the NBA.


Yes, I know nothing about basketball. Yet it is me along with everyone that has ever played the game, coached the game, reported on the game, been considered as an authority on the game who laugh at your premise that Issel was a better college player than Maravich. Name one person, site one list, site one source that agrees with you.

The NBA has nothing to do with the original discussion, but since you brought it up, Issel was great, but even with injuries, Maravich was arguably better. The 70's era NBA was not the game of today. There were many fewer teams and it was much more of a team game. It was extremely hard to dominate or carry a team (which Maravich was forced to do every year in his prime). Name one all-star caliber player that was in his prime and played with Maravich. It is Truck Robinson for one season. That's it, that's the list. Issel played pretty much his entire career with two hall of famers in David Thompson and Alex English and countless other all-stars. Of course his teams won more games, they were loaded compared to the Hawks/Jazz.

There is a reason Maravich made the NBA Top 50 team and Issel did not. Maravich was all NBA 1st team twice. Issel was not.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10272 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 1:00 pm to
I will always think Jordan was the greatest ever as he was also a defensive specialist but I was watching a game from 1977 yesterday between the Jazz and Knicks and Pistol was a stone cold dead on shooter. His college records are unmatched. 44 pts a game with no 3 point line, no shot clock and no illegal defenses. Those numbers are staggering. It's a shame LSU was so bad while he was there. had there just been one other good player on those teams they would have been a force.
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