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re: Ole Miss files lawsuit against two LSU players

Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:33 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:33 am to
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Independent contractors can also
be held to the terms of their contract.


I've never heard of an independent contractor having to pay a "buyout" to be released from a contract where they've received no payment. Perhaps it happens though, I don't know.

My company contracts with independent entities and it's fairly easy to get out of the contract, on both ends.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:36 am to
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If I remember right from Pete’s presser though there are a few more than just these two that went to LSU.


These were the only two that were under a rev share agreement that transferred from Ole Miss.
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:36 am to
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egally yes. OM is in the right here. If I remember right from Pete’s presser though there are a few more than just these two that went to LSU. Would be interesting if that comes up in court the differential response


I believe these 2 are the only ones that signed the rev share agreements. I can't remember if Chris Jones signed one. He was the lb transfer from Southern Miss that signed with us but then went to FSU. Other transfers from OM to LSU, Watkins and Dottery never signed.
Posted by csgau
On the dock of the Bay
Member since Jan 2014
737 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:37 am to
The ultimate pussy move by the ultimate little brother university

You must be a POS also. Hope OM skins those boys back.
Also hope Clemson skins OM back.
This crap is WAY out of control..Time to make an example out of a few.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:42 am to
If it’s even possible for an LSU to look at this objectively, they could easily see that OM should receive money. Every single person on this board is sick of players going to schools and then leaving for more money at the last minute after signing with said school. Apparently if it’s an LSU player they don’t give a shite, but UGA was the first to sue a player for doing this.

Everyone should be completely fine with these players paying money for doing this shite, and if you’re okay with the downfall of cfb just because your school got some recruits, then you are a shitty person
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:47 am to
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If it’s even possible for an LSU to look at this objectively, they could easily see that OM should receive money. Every single person on this board is sick of players going to schools and then leaving for more money at the last minute after signing with said school. Apparently if it’s an LSU player they don’t give a shite, but UGA was the first to sue a player for doing this.

Everyone should be completely fine with these players paying money for doing this shite, and if you’re okay with the downfall of cfb just because your school got some recruits, then you are a shitty person


UGA signed for an NIL issue where money had already been paid out.

This is different.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:50 am to
What's the fantasy here? Ole Miss has no legal grounds to pursue litigation yet it's litigation department is plowing full steam ahead anyways?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72852 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:51 am to
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What's the fantasy here? Ole Miss has no legal grounds to pursue litigation yet it's litigation department is plowing full steam ahead anyways?


These are the first revenue share lawsuits, no one really knows the landscape so both sides are going to push a precedent to be set.
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:52 am to
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UGA signed for an NIL issue where money had already been paid out.

This is different.


It's basic contract law, dude. That's where you are missing the point. Take the fact that they are football players out of it. There is a contract. There is a list of penalties and a dollar figure attached to those penalties. When someone signs a contract, they are agreeing to these penalties. The court is going to take 5 seconds to look at the contract and they will render a judgement. Stop being such a kool-aid drinking homer.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72852 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:56 am to
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It's basic contract law, dude. That's where you are missing the point. Take the fact that they are football players out of it. There is a contract. There is a list of penalties and a dollar figure attached to those penalties. When someone signs a contract, they are agreeing to these penalties. The court is going to take 5 seconds to look at the contract and they will render a judgement. Stop being such a kool-aid drinking homer.


Sure, but is that contract hindering the players from maximizing their earnings?

The issue isn't if the contract exists, it's if it's legal.

If you weren't such a Kool Aid drinking homer, you'd acknowledge there may be difficulties with placing a buyout on an exclusivity contract where the individual has received no payment and isn't an employee.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
5503 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:57 am to
NCAA guidelines regarding revenue sharing and buyouts for all of the message board attorneys on here....
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30549 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:02 am to
So it’s a matter of transferring Revenue Sharing responsibility, not the actual cash.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:02 am to
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I've never heard of an independent contractor having to pay a "buyout" to be released from a contract where they've received no payment. Perhaps it happens though, I don't know.


It does.
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:03 am to
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The issue isn't if the contract exists, it's if it's legal.




quote:

there may be difficulties with placing a buyout on an exclusivity contract where the individual has received no payment
The language matters here. It all depends on how the penalties are structured.


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isn't an employee.
This is irrelevant. I don't even know why this is being brought up.

Like I said, it will take the court an extremely short amount of time to review the language and they will render a judgement or, what I suspect, there will be a settlement before this even makes it to trial. I don't see it going to trial.
Posted by Rebelinexile
Member since Oct 2021
286 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:03 am to
Normally it’s termed penalties for not
adhering to terms of the contract.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:04 am to
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So it’s a matter of transferring Revenue Sharing responsibility, not the actual cash.


Yeah a few pages back, I posted that LSU was originally looking to delay it for next year's rev share bucket.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
22073 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:21 am to
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The court is going to take 5 seconds to look at the contract and they will render a judgement.

Not necessarily. The court has several factors to take into account that may affect the degree of financial responsibility.

Under contract law, liquidated damages are only legal if they represent a reasonable estimate of actual financial harm. Ole Miss would have to prove the value of replacing them and harm suffered through the period of roster destabilization to justify the agreed "buyout."

Next, courts have been hostile toward rules or agreements restricting an athlete’s economic mobility. Placing potential pressure on players to sign these agreements and their exorbitant exit terms could be viewed by the court as the creation of an illegal non-compete clause.

To Sidewalk's point, a valid contract requires consideration (something of value given by both sides). The suit shows the players signed these agreements in early Jan 2026 and entered the portal just days later. If the players received no tangible financial benefit from OM under that revenue sharing extension agreement, the contract may be ruled void.

There are a variety of other ways the final cost may be reduced or mitigated, as well. But, the point is there is nothing certain or open and shut in contractual law or court cases in general.

IMO, most likely scenario is a negotiated settlement and it never sees court. If it goes to court, I could see the judge ruling that the actual losses to UM do not justify the price tag and he orders a reduced debt to be paid. The wildcard would be the judge ruling the contract was a violation of law due to restriction in mobility or its creation of an unjust penalty clause, and the players walk away free and clear.

At the end of the day, the whole thing mirrors the evolution of college sports. It is ugly and detrimental to the overall value and fan interest of the sport
This post was edited on 7/29/26 at 11:23 am
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
5503 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:24 am to
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So it’s a matter of transferring Revenue Sharing responsibility, not the actual cash.


Would it not be both if money was given to the two players after signing initially? Seems that the money would go back into Ole Miss and free up Ole Miss's rev sharing cap, while taking money away from LSU's rev sharing cap (assuming, it's not maxed out - which would create all sorts of issues). I'm not an attorney, so I have no idea. This whole thing is a mess and needs real structuring.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12365 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:49 am to
we all know LSU rev share is max out just by the way the LSU talking heads talking about the roster etc..
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2223 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 12:02 pm to
I really hope Mississippi wins this one for the sake of college football, and I’m also extremely happy that LSU didn’t look petty and go after a college kid that backed out of a contract before even being paid.
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