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Not a good year to hire a coach

Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:38 pm
June McElwain and Mike Riley?

Goodness...
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:39 pm to
Definitely thread worthy
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119031 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:41 pm to
Indiana fans
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:42 pm to
Riley hire is very strange. Only one stranger was when we hired mr 5 and 19
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10588 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:45 pm to
He better hire some recruiters on his staff. 2014 class ranked 86 and 84 in 2013. Even in talent rich Florida, that's not going to be good enough. Plus there is the risk that when this type hire gets fired, he leaves the cupboard bare.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:45 pm to
I don't understand Rich Rod not getting a call to me he's both a great offensive coach and a still young enough to be an up and comer (he's younger than McElwain). If we'd fired Boom last season we could have had Strong back (Franklin wouldn't have flown with his ethics issues).

OTOH all the Bama people seem to think Florida hired the best coach on the market, hell Finebaum calls McElwain the next Meyer.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13362 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:56 pm to
I think it's more about the ADs being lazy.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35609 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:02 pm to
This is going to be the trend going forward. More schools can afford to pony up and keep a coach they like. The big programs can't just outspend everyone like it used to be. On top of that, expectations at the big schools are such that it is increasingly not worth it to go to a pressure cooker of a program and risk getting fired in a couple of years when you've got a comfortable gig that is paying a competitive salary.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:05 pm to
Excellent point. Maybe the "fire everybody" craze will slow down as well.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19698 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:06 pm to
Only one I'm interested in seeing right now is who Michigan lands.
Posted by TIGER62
METAIRIE, LA
Member since Aug 2005
2219 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:08 pm to
riley turned bama down - several years back
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

This is going to be the trend going forward. More schools can afford to pony up and keep a coach they like. The big programs can't just outspend everyone like it used to be. On top of that, expectations at the big schools are such that it is increasingly not worth it to go to a pressure cooker of a program and risk getting fired in a couple of years when you've got a comfortable gig that is paying a competitive salary.



Yep, stability is a consideration as well. Georgia with Mark Richt is a prime example. Richt might never win a NC at UGA but we will always have a solid and clean program under his direction. And as long as the money keeps rolling in our admins will be happy. Our admins are really more focused on increasing the academic standing of our institution. A NC in football would be great but they are not going all in to get one.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35609 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Maybe the "fire everybody" craze will slow down as well.


I'm not sure that will be the end result. Fanatics (fans) aren't exactly noted for their well reasoned approach to things. Boosters are just rich fans. Their donations control the purse strings and they'll eventually get the changes they want if it is a good decision or not. The echo-chamber of message boards and social media don't make things any better either.

I do think while the names won't be as big to big programs, the art of hiring the right guy is still the same and probably have similar rates of success and failure as there have always been.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:30 pm to
These recent hires may or may not pan out, but damn, nothing to get excited about at this point.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14480 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

He better hire some recruiters on his staff. 2014 class ranked 86 and 84 in 2013. Even in talent rich Florida, that's not going to be good enough. Plus there is the risk that when this type hire gets fired, he leaves the cupboard bare.

We're talking about Colorado State here. Florida will get players.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:31 pm to
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Not a good year to hire a coach

Maybe not...but, thus far, looks like a good year to be a coach with ties to Bama...

I think McElwain could do well at UF...the Riley hire surprised me though...he'd done well at Oregon State for a while, but I'd read where he was kinda on the hot seat there this year...
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

riley turned bama down - several years back
Didn't want to deal with probation. Reason we got Shula.



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