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re: NCAA to halt all NIL investigations
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:34 pm to LewEvansFan
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:34 pm to LewEvansFan
Poor Will Wade
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:36 pm to Volatile
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You’re welcome, Florida and FSU.
You didn't do us any favors. I was hoping we could clean house.
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But frick you very much, Florida.
What's your problem with us, other than being our perennial bitch.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:39 pm to Volatile
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You’re welcome, Florida and FSU.
But frick you very much, Florida.
There were also many more schools coming down the pipeline for investigation. Looking at you Ole Miss. You’re welcome.
They should’ve known not to come after a schools whose song talks about killing investigators that came sniffing around their territory.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:39 pm to bigDgator
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other than being our perennial bitch.
He is a Tennessee fan.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:40 pm to MOJO_ERASER
Why is it hard for people to accept that Sypre Sport is a 3rd party entity? The Judge said a player had the right to know what their value is. How much money is Beck at Georgia making. How much money is Ohio State paying all these Transfers. All of these Players are being paid for their athletic performance.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:42 pm to paperwasp
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I'm going to assume this is bad, mainly because Tennessee just manages to frick everything up for the rest of us.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:43 pm to captdalton
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It may be over for Tennessee. It may not be. They are only pausing ongoing investigations and not starting new ones until there is more clarity. The NCAA still has a hard on to nail Smokey’s hide to the side of the barn as a recent repeat offender.
My God. This is just sad and pathetic at this point. You clearly aren’t smart enough to understand the case.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:44 pm to Loganville Vols
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Why is it hard for people to accept that Sypre Sport is a 3rd party entity?
Spyre is a third party entity but it is run by two UT boosters. So the question becomes whether those boosters should be allowed to hide behind the corporate veil while brokering NIL deals for recruits to come play for UT. I haven't followed this closely, but it seems that the court is inclined to rule that they can do so.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:52 pm to Lucado
Show me the collectives for schools that aren’t run by someone who isn’t a fan of said program.
Regardless, that still isn’t what this is about.
Regardless, that still isn’t what this is about.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:57 pm to LewEvansFan
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Show me the collectives for schools that aren’t run by someone who isn’t a fan of said program.
My understanding is that Spyre is not a collective. It is an NIL brokerage. Two different things.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:05 pm to Lucado
Yes. The case is focusing on not being able to discuss NIL opportunities with collectives as a recruit.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:11 pm to MOJO_ERASER
From the Washington Post:
The measures that collectives cannot pay for student athletes to attend a school on their play alone is still being pushed by the NCAA. They do not want the ‘pay-for-play’ narrative to continue being pushed, but unfortunately for them, there's nothing they can really do about the situation now.
So, if you are Tennessee and Florida, you can breathe a sigh of relief. While Florida State needs to go back to the NCAA and tell them we are not taking the punishment handed down recently.
NCAA is still enforcing three parts of its NIL policy:
• The prohibition on paying athletes for “specific athletics performance” (what the NCAA calls pay-for-play).------It is impossible to prove it is pay for play or pay for likeness
• The prohibition on schools directly paying athletes through NIL deals (which Baker hopes to change, though he says he needs congressional help first).
• The requirement that athletes actually do something to receive NIL money.
The measures that collectives cannot pay for student athletes to attend a school on their play alone is still being pushed by the NCAA. They do not want the ‘pay-for-play’ narrative to continue being pushed, but unfortunately for them, there's nothing they can really do about the situation now.
So, if you are Tennessee and Florida, you can breathe a sigh of relief. While Florida State needs to go back to the NCAA and tell them we are not taking the punishment handed down recently.
NCAA is still enforcing three parts of its NIL policy:
• The prohibition on paying athletes for “specific athletics performance” (what the NCAA calls pay-for-play).------It is impossible to prove it is pay for play or pay for likeness
• The prohibition on schools directly paying athletes through NIL deals (which Baker hopes to change, though he says he needs congressional help first).
• The requirement that athletes actually do something to receive NIL money.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:19 pm to Loganville Vols
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Why is it hard for people to accept that Sypre Sport is a 3rd party entity? The Judge said a player had the right to know what their value is. How much money is Beck at Georgia making. How much money is Ohio State paying all these Transfers. All of these Players are being paid for their athletic performance.
While the NCAA rules on pay for play really don't matter anymore, it seems you don't understand what they were.
The NCAA was fine with players getting NIL deals based on performance. Performance is what builds the name image and likeness of a player. It's the intent of NIL.
They wanted Carson Beck to get paid for winning the starting job at UGA and wanted him to get paid to stay in college football another year.
What the NCAA did not want was NIL money to be used for recruiting. Their only rule for NIL is that you can't induce a player to come to your school with a NIL deal. Players who haven't stepped on campus yet haven't done anything to create a name/image/likeness value yet.
It seems like you don't understand the difference between Bryce Younge making a million bucks a year in year one of NIL at Alabama and a recruit being paid a million dollars a year to go to Alabama. The first is okay according to the NCAA. The second isn't.
Doesn't matter anymore. Pay for play is okay now. But you aren't understanding what the rules were before. UGA and Alabama were doing what the NCAA intended with NIL. Their collectives were paying their players who had success on the field or at least won starting jobs on their teams. Those paying recruits big money to attend their school like Tennessee and Texas A&M were not.
But you're safe now. The courts decided that the NCAA rules didn't matter.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 7:23 pm to hooperj75
Basically the NCAA was trying to tell kids they couldn’t go to a place that offered them the most money for their services.
And that is truly un-American.
Was never going to hold up in court.
And that is truly un-American.
Was never going to hold up in court.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:41 pm to Volatile
For the last so many years most on here have been saying screw the ncaa, we don't need them. Now when something is being done, it's all UT's fault& we need the ncaa. People on here change with how the wind blows.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:56 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:There are a couple of idiots in the other thread that are too stupid to catch on.
My God. This is just sad and pathetic at this point. You clearly aren’t smart enough to understand the case.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:29 am to BigOrangeBri
I'm surprised that they did this.
I know a couple of Tennessee fans were predicting exactly this and more than a few fans of other teams were laughing at them for such a prediction, but here we are.
I know a couple of Tennessee fans were predicting exactly this and more than a few fans of other teams were laughing at them for such a prediction, but here we are.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:31 am to DawginSC
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But you aren't understanding what the rules were before.
Apparently those rules were illegal and unconstitutional. I would think therefore they are irrelevant.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:38 am to MOJO_ERASER
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Prohibition on pay-for-play, meaning payment for specific athletics performance. Tenn not out of woods yet. Prohibition on direct institutional payment for NIL. The quid pro quo requirement.
It’s over.
The horse is out of the barn.
“Direct” versus “indirect” payments are semantics.
“Specific athletics performance” is going to be impossible to prove. The highest NiL deals will accrue to the players who “perform” the best.
Schools can probably cut most of the compliance staff.
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