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re: NCAA officially appoints IARP to handle LSU cases for both football and basketball.

Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64477 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:18 pm to
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Vadal's dad received the money after he was already at LSU.

Why do you think that matters? Boosters can't pay players or their family after they commit either.
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terrible analogy

Not really. You're asking really dumb questions as if you've never followed an NCAA adjudication process before, so I dumbed it down for you as much as possible. You asked if the schools could be held responsible even if they had nothing to do with players or their families being paid. The short answer to that is yes whether you think it's fair/right or not.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:20 pm to
you said this

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if a football booster gave a parent/current player a job for the sole purpose of getting that player to play sports at a school


I replied with, "Vadal's dad received the money after he was already at LSU."

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terrible analogy
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Not really



This situation with Vadal's dad would be like you own a compnay and one of your employees dads fricks up on the job.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 4:22 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:22 pm to
UFORFEIT
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:23 pm to
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You're asking really dumb questions


which questions?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37593 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:24 pm to
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The potential football allegations share certain patterns with the basketball investigation, including booster involvement in NCAA violations," Duncan wrote. "The behaviors related to football also could inform on general institutional allegations, such as potential failure to monitor, and applicable aggravating or mitigating factors."



OOOOOOFFFFFF.......NOT A Good Look
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64477 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

"Vadal's dad received the money after he was already at LSU."

And I replied with why do you think that matters?

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This situation with Vadal's dad would be like you own a compnay and one of your employees dads fricks up on the job.

I mean, sure if you insist on being overly pedantic just for the sake of being argumentative. The NCAA bylaws treat players and families receiving benefits as one in the same. This isn't a difficult concept to follow.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:26 pm to
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"The potential football allegations share certain patterns with the basketball investigation, including booster involvement in NCAA violations," Duncan wrote. "The behaviors related to football also could inform on general institutional allegations, such as potential failure to monitor, and applicable aggravating or mitigating factors."



fricking yikes. NCAA gonna frick LSU all the way up.
Posted by El_Tigre94
Member since Aug 2019
553 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:30 pm to
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fricking yikes. NCAA gonna frick LSU all the way up.


You gotta love the LSU fans who have convinced themselves that they've done nothing wrong. Which is sadly most of them.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64477 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:32 pm to
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which questions?

For starters

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My point is are the coaches really expected to monitor every aspect of the players and their families lives?


Athletic departments are expected to provide appropriate education to their student athletes and their families of NCAA rules, and they are expected to sufficiently monitor to ensure compliance with those rules. I could very easily provide you with a vast history of the NCAA punishing schools and hitting them with LOCI and/or failure to monitor over the doings of a rogue booster providing payments to student athletes and/or their families. Schools are ultimately responsible for monitoring all of these parties.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13337 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:35 pm to
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Might need to give that championship trophy back here in the next few years.



Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13337 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:39 pm to
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The enforcement staff confirmed that Funes "arranged employment beginning in 2012 for the parents of a then football student-athlete and paid the father $180,000 during 2012-17 for a no-show job."


He did this to launder money. The parents sent it back. He did it with non-LSU affiliated people as well and that has been proven. It wasn't about LSU football, it was about Funes stealing from his employer and their foundation and trying to launder the money.

It wasn't a pay-for-play scheme or something.

ETA:

And it was under an old head coach, old AD, and old President. And we didn't win shite while Vadal was playing.

The Will Wade shite is different and that could come down on LSU basketball pretty hard, but football will be fine.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28897 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:05 pm to
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The potential football allegations share certain patterns with the basketball investigation,

If they have 2 major programs under investigation at the same time then it should be an automatic Lack Of Institutional Control.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:09 pm to
This is the only part that I hadn't heard about RE: Funes. Any more details would be appreciated
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offering internships to football student-athletes."
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:19 pm to
Florida hasn't been relevant nationally since Teblow cried off into the sunset
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3414 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:20 pm to
Perhaps I missed something. I thought it was Miss State that offered the $180,000? Wasn’t there was an “on going investigation” that found no wrong doing involving Aubie and the student athlete in question? Aubie has been clean since the REC put the recorder on Eric Ramsey!
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10547 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:22 pm to
They got LSU this time!!!

Will Wade will never coach another game!!!!

Am I doing this right?
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26681 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:24 pm to
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I thought it was Miss State that offered the $180,000?

You are correct. There was no evidence of any wrongdoing by Auburn. Not even a strong arse offer.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:25 pm to
I am sure a guy like you who couldn't find a date in a bordello is getting really excited about that.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5681 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:30 pm to
Motion to change the thread title to "As the Bayou Boils"

I will ensure it stays bumped with the latest info and discussion.

It's about to get bumpy.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 5:31 pm
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:32 pm to
Not sure why anyone on this forum pretends like this isn't common practice for every SEC team.
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