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re: NCAA officially appoints IARP to handle LSU cases for both football and basketball.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:32 pm to civiltiger07
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:32 pm to civiltiger07
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LSU hasn't, thanks for the input Dickie V.
so the NCAA just made this shite up?
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:32 pm to civiltiger07
Funes is nothing more than a poor excuse for a money laundering scheme.
Vadal's father also sent money back to Funes. It has money laundering written all over it.
Vadal's father also sent money back to Funes. It has money laundering written all over it.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:34 pm to MrAUTigers
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so the NCAA just made this shite up?
what am I saying the NCAA "made up"?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:35 pm to ForeverGator
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but going to be a long-term loss when wins/championships possibly get vacated and coaches receive show causes
fortunately, there was only one title in that time frame for those two programs, a basketball conference title. Vadal Alexander's last year at LSU was 2015. The coaches involved are already gone, as are the president and AD. But I welcome the NCAA to give Les Miles a show cause. I'm sure Kansas would be devastated. If basketball is hammered, so be it. They sucked before, so maybe they'll just suck again. We're used to the basketball program not being very good.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:35 pm to Hogfan13
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Hey, at least they did it well enough to win some championships. Ole Miss did it for nothing.
Hid what? OLOL Hospital had an internal audit, they reportd the findings to the CEO, lots of LSU alums there and the findings also were given to LSU. LSU looked into the donations that Funes made to the Athletic Department and reported everything to the NCAA. That was in the fall of 2018.
A local Judge and jury of 12 Baton Rouge citizens herd the evidence and he was convicted and sentenced to 33 months in prison.
What did LSU hide? The NCAA wants Wade it seems bad so my guess is they threw this in to put more pressure on LSU to give up Wade (if there is a there/there, which the NCAA could not find evidence of).
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:37 pm to civiltiger07
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what am I saying the NCAA "made up"?
The NCAA must present an NOI when they are investigating a school.
The NCAA presents an NOA if any wrongdoing is found.
LSU must have received both and just not made it public. It's as obvious as the nose on your face.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:38 pm to Solo Cam
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If we paid the same amount for Vadal Alexander that Auburn paid for Cam then we’re the ones that got robbed.
$180k got Auburn a natty and Heisman winning QB.
$180k got LSU a preseason first team All-SEC left tackle.
$180k got us Albert Means. If you're looking for sympathy about getting poor ROI, you're outta luck buddy.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:38 pm to MrAUTigers
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The NCAA presents an NOA if any wrongdoing is found.
LSU has not received a NOA.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:38 pm to ForeverGator
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In a 10-page letter to the Infractions Referral Committee, LSU's attorneys did not object to the basketball matter being adjudicated by the IARP, as long as three allegations involving the school's football program weren't included in the case.
Good thing Will has a little chunk to him. That bus might've done more damage when he got thrown underneath it otherwise.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:39 pm to civiltiger07
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or the fact that Rohan's mom received money from Funes 5 years after he left LSU
5? More like 11 years after. The stuff with former players is irrelevant. The only active player with the Funes stuff was Vadal Alexander's dad being involved from 2012-2015. We didn't win anything of note in those years, so I really couldn't care less what they do about that. The coaches who were there are gone too. The NCAA, IMO, is only merging the football stuff so maybe they can hit the bball program with an LOIC they've been trying to the past 2+ years.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:43 pm to civiltiger07
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LSU has not received a NOA.
Yet the NCAA alleges..........
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"The potential football allegations share certain patterns with the basketball investigation, including booster involvement in NCAA violations," Duncan wrote. "The behaviors related to football also could inform on general institutional allegations, such as potential failure to monitor, and applicable aggravating or mitigating factors."
The most serious allegation related to LSU's football program involves booster John Paul Funes, a former CEO of a hospital foundation whom the enforcement staff accused of "providing funds to the families of current and former student-athletes, arranging for members of the institution's football staff to use a private plane and offering internships to football student-athletes."
The enforcement staff confirmed that Funes "arranged employment beginning in 2012 for the parents of a then football student-athlete and paid the father $180,000 during 2012-17 for a no-show job."
That sir, is an allegation by the NCAA.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:44 pm to MrAUTigers
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LSU must have received both and just not made it public.
I think they've, more or less, confirmed they received a Notice of Inquiry for basketball and already received a Notice of Allegations for the football stuff a long time ago. That football stuff, to my understanding, was basically settled until the basketball stuff came into play, which is why the LSU AD was trying settle the football stuff now. I really don't think they've received the NOA for basketball yet because I think they're still investigating. And I'm sure guys like Pat Forde are sending FOIA requests to the LSU AD weekly to try to get it
That's how he found the cell phone records request stuff.Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:46 pm to lsufball19
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More like 11 years after.
I didn't remember the exact amount of time.
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The stuff with former players is irrelevant
I believe the stuff with former players shows Funes wasn't working with LSU coaches to pay players. If a coach is lining up players to get paid by donors and those donors are required to pay some of the money back to the donor, the coaches should not only be fired but also spend time in jail. I just don't believe that Funes was doing the bidding of the LSU coaching staff.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:47 pm to Solo Cam
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Only damming evidence is the Vadal Alexander father situation which is not only past the statue of limitations set forth by the NCAA but also was under a completely different administration and coaching staff.
There are plenty of loop holes in the bylaws to get around the SOL. They exploited those loop holes with the Ole Miss and USC cases.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:48 pm to ForeverGator
THIS IS NOT GOOD
They WILL vacate the 2019 title.
They WILL vacate the 2019 title.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:48 pm to JustGetItRight
He was a RT and was a 7th round NFL pick.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:48 pm to lsufball19
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And I'm sure guys like Pat Forde are sending FOIA requests to the LSU AD weekly to try to get it
You know he is digging through LSU's garbage can as we speak. I still don't understand how his ilk can be gainfully employed. Only in 'Merica.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:48 pm to ForeverGator
providing funds to the families of current and former student-athletes
oh oh
oh oh
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:49 pm to secuniversity
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THIS IS NOT GOOD
They WILL vacate the 2019 title.
I suppose 2019 title will simply be vacated
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:50 pm to civiltiger07
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it's interesting when this is brought up Rohan Davy's mom receiving money from Funes isn't brought up. I wonder why?
probably because Funes' extortion started in 2012 and Rohan Davey hadn't been a student athlete since 2001. The NCAA has no standing to govern what student athletes do years after they are no longer eligible to play NCAA sports.
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