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re: NCAA officially appoints IARP to handle LSU cases for both football and basketball.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:51 pm to MrAUTigers
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:51 pm to MrAUTigers
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so the NCAA just made this shite up?
Well, We do have precedent of them doing it to LSU before.
They did it to LSU before with Lester Earl when they convinced him to lie about getting paid so he could transfer and be immediately eligible at Kansas. There is a reason LSU fans despise Roy Williams. He came clean a decade later
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:53 pm to MrAUTigers
that is not a NOA.
Dickie V. posted tweets during the summer that LSU received the NOA. Then he had to walk it back when it was confirmed LSU did not receive a NOA. Then Dickie V. said the NOA was coming late July/early August. I don't know if you noticed but its the end of September. Dickie V. then had to revise his statement that the NOA is "coming". Believe me is LSU basketball received a NOA Dickie V. would make sure every person in the world knew it.
Dickie V. posted tweets during the summer that LSU received the NOA. Then he had to walk it back when it was confirmed LSU did not receive a NOA. Then Dickie V. said the NOA was coming late July/early August. I don't know if you noticed but its the end of September. Dickie V. then had to revise his statement that the NOA is "coming". Believe me is LSU basketball received a NOA Dickie V. would make sure every person in the world knew it.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:53 pm to memphisplaya
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Vadal's father also sent money back to Funes. It has money laundering written all over it.
I mean, we know it's money laundering. As in, the FBI showed it was money laundering during Funes' trial. The question is how much Alexander's father kept for helping Funes launder the money. The feds chose not to prosecute the parties that Funes used to launder money, but that doesn't mean the NCAA wouldn't have cause to look into it. But my honest take is the only reason they're not settling the football stuff with minimal punishment (some has already been self-imposed by LSU) is because the basketball stuff opens the door for an LOIC, which would ultimately crush the basketball program, not the football program.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:55 pm to BLG
Hopefully nothing comes of this, but I would be a bit worried.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:57 pm to memphisplaya
To the down voters bout my last post about the NCAA fabricating evidence.
Here. Interview with Lester Earl
Lester Earl
The NCAA can eat a dick.
Here. Interview with Lester Earl
Lester Earl
The NCAA can eat a dick.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:57 pm to civiltiger07
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I believe the stuff with former players shows Funes wasn't working with LSU coaches to pay players.
A booster doesn't have to work directly with coaches for a school to be punished. It certainly helps with an LOIC charge if the school mitigated everything as quickly and completely as they could once they found out, but it doesn't absolve them of any possible consequences necessarily.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:57 pm to FreddieMac
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You do realize they have nothing on Wade or LSU and they keep saber rattling trying to get LSU to sacrifice Wade and LSU is not having any of it.
Imagine being this stupid.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:59 pm to civiltiger07
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that is not a NOA.
Dickie V. posted tweets during the summer that LSU received the NOA. Then he had to walk it back when it was confirmed LSU did not receive a NOA. Then Dickie V. said the NOA was coming late July/early August. I don't know if you noticed but its the end of September. Dickie V. then had to revise his statement that the NOA is "coming". Believe me is LSU basketball received a NOA Dickie V. would make sure every person in the world knew it.
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LSU's attorneys did not object to the basketball matter being adjudicated by the IARP,
so basketball is being adjudicated by the IARP without any allegations from the NCAA?
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:59 pm to lsufball19
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I mean, we know it's money laundering. As in, the FBI showed it was money laundering during Funes' trial. The question is how much Alexander's father kept for helping Funes launder the money. The feds chose not to prosecute the parties that Funes used to launder money, but that doesn't mean the NCAA wouldn't have cause to look into it. But my honest take is the only reason they're not settling the football stuff with minimal punishment (some has already been self-imposed by LSU) is because the basketball stuff opens the door for an LOIC, which would ultimately crush the basketball program, not the football program.
My point is are the coaches really expected to monitor every aspect of the players and their families lives? If a players dad runs a business and gets a job at OLOL do the coaches need to ask the T&C's of the contract?
Now if the coaches are lining up these payments they should be put in jail.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:59 pm to Hogfan13
He's not wrong, if they had substantial evidence on Wade he would be long gone by now. LSU has been calling the NCAA's bluff on this one for a while in that regard. The NCAA has "leaked" to the media crap to write hit pieces on to try and make us push Wade out and offered up zero additional evidence proving any cheating was going on there. IT's all vague non-clear evidence and LSU knows that, which is why they haven't let Wade go yet. Not to say something still couldnt be uncovered, but if they had something damning on Wade, he'd be long gone.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:59 pm to MrAUTigers
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so the basketball is being adjudicated by the IARP without no allegations from the NCAA?
yes
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:00 pm to ForeverGator
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LSU
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ForeverGator
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:01 pm to civiltiger07
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yes
k Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:03 pm to MrAUTigers
I don't know what to tell you but after this committee reviews everything and makes a recommendation LSU would then receive the NOA.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:07 pm to ForeverGator
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That's just one example. If they show patterns, it'll be further reaching, maybe even involve last year.
Clearly half following what’s going on here.
They have gone back.
The Feds indicted and convicted this guyS
The information is there. This is what they have. And they don’t have proof that it was anything beyond normal money laundering. It’s more likely money laundering as the payments continues past the time Alexander was at LSU.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:10 pm to civiltiger07
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My point is are the coaches really expected to monitor every aspect of the players and their families lives?
It may seem unreasonable, but yes. The athletic department is ultimately responsible. Think of it like this. You own a company and one of your employees fricks up on the job, you can be found liable for his conduct even if you had no way of knowing about it or preventing it from happening. Obviously, that is a very simplistic way of explaining it, but the same basic logic applies to this sort of thing.
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If a players dad runs a business and gets a job at OLOL do the coaches need to ask the T&C's of the contract?
No, because there's nothing illegal and/or against NCAA bylaws about that; however, if a football booster gave a parent/current player a job for the sole purpose of getting that player to play sports at a school, then yeah that's a problem and impermissible benefit. That's why these athletic departments have big compliance departments who are responsible for monitoring the goings on, as best they can, of their student athletes, boosters, etc. I don't think it's all that fair or reasonable, but no one ever accused the NCAA of being fair and reasonable. (See Missouri)
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:14 pm to lsufball19
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if a football booster gave a parent a job for the purpose of getting that player to play sports at a school, then yeah that's a problem.
Vadal's dad received the money after he was already at LSU.
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My point is are the coaches really expected to monitor every aspect of the players and their families lives?quote:
It may seem unreasonable, but yes.
ya think
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Think of it like this. You own a company and one of your employees fricks up on the job, you can be found liable for his conduct even if you had no way of knowing about it or preventing it from happening.
terrible analogy
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:14 pm to RollTide1987
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Might need to give that championship trophy back here in the next few years.
2 trophies
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:15 pm to ForeverGator
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That's just one example. If they show patterns, it'll be further reaching, maybe even involve last year.
The football investigation already happened. They received a NOA for 3 things 1) the Funes stuff; 2) contact during a dead period with a recruit; and 3) Odell handing out cash after (after being important here) the CFP title game. For the dead period contact (very minor), LSU already self-imposed recruiting restrictions for this year. The Odell stuff involved only players who are no longer at LSU (Burrow, Jefferson, and Vincent) and who didn't play any games after they received the money. The money was reportedly returned already as well. It was also like $1000 total, so there wasn't much to it outside Odell being a jackass, per usual. The Funes stuff was the only thing remaining, and the big problem with it is it involved a student athlete that's been gone for 5 years now, and the coach, president, and AD are gone too. Not sure what you can even do about that outside vacating wins, which honestly who really cares about that? We didn't win anything of consequence while Alexander was a player, so if we have to vacate a coiuple of 10-3 seasons and an 8-5 season, so be it.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:17 pm to MrAUTigers
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basketball is being adjudicated by the IARP without any allegations from the NCAA?
LSU 100% has not received an official Notice of Allegstions from thr NCAA regarding the basketball program.
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