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re: My Top ALL-TIME 5 SEC Teams
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:47 am to bamameister
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:47 am to bamameister
Look, you were the one that put 6 teams in your top 5 not me. I am just responding to the dumbest of the 6 you listed.
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:49 am to bamameister
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Number 2
Tennessee Volunteers
All-time record: 857–410–56
Bowl wins: 29
Conference titles: 13
National championships: 6
False
They have two, 1951 and 1998.
Retroactive championships based on analytical data complied by computer nerds decades after seasons are played is ridiculous.
NCAA may recognize, but that organization is about to become a relic as well.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:52 am to bamameister
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Easy answer. All NCs count the same. You didn't invent football, and the blood, sweat, and tears players, coaches, and fans shed for their team were no different from today's investment. I would argue that practices of yesteryear were much more a near-death experience than this new age scientific approach
If all National Championships count the same then here is your 3 greatest Football programs of All-Time
Sorry Bama, Yale outranks you. Lol
1 Yale - 18 National Titles
2 Alabama 17
3 Princeton - 15
Per the NCAA LINK
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:40 am to bamameister
Where the frick is 1899 Ole Miss?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:45 am to bamameister
Cholly Mac was the only coach to beat the Bear 2 years in a row.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:56 am to Tiger on the Rag
That’s just not true lol
Neyland beat him 4 straight times at UK
DOUG Dickey beat him three straight times at Bama
Neyland beat him 4 straight times at UK
DOUG Dickey beat him three straight times at Bama
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:10 pm to WG_Dawg
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This is wrong.
There is hardly any objective ranking system that would not have UGA as the 2nd best all time program. If you really wanted to get into the weeds you could make a case for LSU, but at worst it'd be an LSU/UGA tossup. Tenn, who for decades was an ironclad #2, is now #4 at best.
of course but bama and ut fans will prop up UT national championships with BS ones just like bama does
the top 4 is going to be some combo but certainly post expansion has to count for more than the 1940 games imo.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:11 pm to VFL67
No you don't clown. 1967=weak as all get out. By 1980 we were past the whole "claimed" bit. Definitely by the 21/22 titles. More Vol horse
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:31 pm to Tiger on the Rag
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Cholly Mac was the only coach to beat the Bear 2 years in a row.
You could have just as easily put his entire record vs Coach Bryant up for all to see, Cajun man.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:34 pm to lsu777
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of course but bama and ut fans will prop up UT national championships with BS ones just like bama does
What universe do you live in?
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the top 4 is going to be some combo but certainly post expansion has to count for more than the 1940 games imo.
If you can get out 6 NCs under Coach Saban to count for more than our 6 NCs under Coach Bryant, get back with me.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:37 pm to bamameister
Good list, endorse
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:45 pm to bamameister
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What universe do you live in?
dude yall are number 1 and have by far the most
my point was in what universe does UT have more than 2? making them up like bama does the 1 and trying to use that for justification is stupid
as pointed out...if you are going to use those services than apply the same to LSU and UGA and they are still ahead of UT.
nobody gives AF about what happened before integration much less pre WW2.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:47 pm to Dawgs2122
1967 National Champion (announced before the bowl game)
Facts at time Natty was decided:
AP Ranking #1 USC (9-1) lost to unranked Oregon State
AP Ranking #2 Tennessee (9-1) lost to #8 UCLA
Do UGA fans not realize for some reason that national titles were announced before bowl games at this time? Its not like schools are going back and randomly claiming years. Schools are claiming years that other outlets considered them natty winners when there's a legitimate case to be made. It is totally valid for Tennessee to claim a title this year when its obvious there was bias against Tennessee because it was in the South and the national media hated the Southern teams because they hadn't fully integrated yet. Thats also not true that by 1980 teams were past the "claimed" bit. Hell in 1990 we have two natty winners and same in 2004 lol
Facts at time Natty was decided:
AP Ranking #1 USC (9-1) lost to unranked Oregon State
AP Ranking #2 Tennessee (9-1) lost to #8 UCLA
Do UGA fans not realize for some reason that national titles were announced before bowl games at this time? Its not like schools are going back and randomly claiming years. Schools are claiming years that other outlets considered them natty winners when there's a legitimate case to be made. It is totally valid for Tennessee to claim a title this year when its obvious there was bias against Tennessee because it was in the South and the national media hated the Southern teams because they hadn't fully integrated yet. Thats also not true that by 1980 teams were past the "claimed" bit. Hell in 1990 we have two natty winners and same in 2004 lol
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:52 pm to lsu777
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nobody gives AF about what happened before integration much less pre WW2.
There were a lot of Southern white boys beating the hell out of Yankee and Western teams that were integrated in the biggest of bowls. Your reasoning and history are faulty.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:48 pm to bamameister
Well, suh prise, suh prise.
Bammer picks the crimson necks as numero uno.
Bammer picks the crimson necks as numero uno.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:50 pm to bamameister
Also no one cares
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:00 pm to bamameister
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Easy answer. All NCs count the same. You didn't invent football, and the blood, sweat, and tears players, coaches, and fans shed for their team were no different from today's investment.
Alright so Yale is the best program of all time then by this logic.
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Many football coaches thought a drop of water during practice was a sign of weakness. Coaches could work their players to death, in pads and spring ball could go on forever. By those measurements, and many more, that chunk of hardware may mean a lot more to a lot of people. And more richly deserved.
Lmao tell me you’re a boomer without telling me. This is completely subjective. Before modern era the traditional powerhouses could offer as many scholarships as they wanted. Anyone with a brain would agree implementing scholarship limits has made the sport far more competitive and more difficult to win a championship.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:12 pm to VFL67
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Facts at time Natty was decided:
AP Ranking #1 USC (9-1) lost to unranked Oregon State
AP Ranking #2 Tennessee (9-1) lost to #8 UCLA
Also facts, USC beat then #1 UCLA the last game of the season. USC also beat #5 Notre Dame on the road. Tennessee only played one other ranked team that entire season
Also facts, both teams finished with the same record and both polls named USC the national champion.
Claiming national titles outside the major polls (AP, UPI, Coaches, BCS, CFP) in the poll era (1936-present) is ridiculous. You want to have arguments about what should count before the poll era, have at it. But 1967? That shite is embarrassing
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:55 pm to lsufball19
What's embarrassing is how LSU and UGA fans are more concerned about Tennessee titles from over 50 years ago than vol fans lol
You conveniently left out the part where Tennessee also had a road top 10 win against a Bear Bryant Kenny Stabler team. Tennessee lost the first game of the season and went on a 9 game win streak. USC was undefeated all year and lost in week 9 to an unranked team. USC beat UCLA and jumped Tennessee in the polls who had been #2. Everyone knows that when the 1 team loses the team ranked 2 is supposed to move to 1 if they win. However, since there was bias against the SEC and OJ Simpson was the flashy reigning Heisman winner, they let USC jump Tennessee in the last vote of the season thus winning the national championship. The vols are more than deserving that year to claim a title just like USC. If its anyone fault that there claim isn't stronger its that we had to play unranked teams like LSU that year.
Stop commenting on Tennessee seasons unless you are gonna paint the whole picture
You conveniently left out the part where Tennessee also had a road top 10 win against a Bear Bryant Kenny Stabler team. Tennessee lost the first game of the season and went on a 9 game win streak. USC was undefeated all year and lost in week 9 to an unranked team. USC beat UCLA and jumped Tennessee in the polls who had been #2. Everyone knows that when the 1 team loses the team ranked 2 is supposed to move to 1 if they win. However, since there was bias against the SEC and OJ Simpson was the flashy reigning Heisman winner, they let USC jump Tennessee in the last vote of the season thus winning the national championship. The vols are more than deserving that year to claim a title just like USC. If its anyone fault that there claim isn't stronger its that we had to play unranked teams like LSU that year.
Stop commenting on Tennessee seasons unless you are gonna paint the whole picture
Posted on 5/28/25 at 5:24 pm to VFL67
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Stop commenting on Tennessee seasons unless you are gonna paint the whole picture
You mean like when you didn’t paint the whole picture in your post? Leaving out that USC beat #1 UCLA the last game is pretty important don’t you think?
I’ll be sure to do a better job of painting a Tennessee bias next time I post
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season thus winning the national championship. The vols are more than deserving that year to claim a title just like USC.
Ok
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If its anyone fault that there claim isn't stronger its that we had to play unranked teams like LSU that year.
I guess them and the other 8 unranked teams on the schedule
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Everyone knows that when the 1 team loses the team ranked 2 is supposed to move to 1 if they win.
If you say so
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 5:39 pm
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