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re: My. Rushmore of sec football coaches

Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:45 am to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:45 am to
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Bear, Saban and Urban are the only ones with more than 1 natty at an SEC school.




Neyland has 1 AP title 1951, and 3 others that are recognized multiple publications that were considered more reputable than the AP at the time.

Winsipedia recognizes 3 for him, we claim 4 for him.

During his first nine-year stint with the Vols, Neyland had five undefeated seasons, all within a six-year period (1927, 1928, 1929, 1931, and 1932). The Vols reeled off undefeated streaks of 33 and 28 straight games. Upon returning stateside from the Panama Canal Zone, he returned to UT as head coach.

Neyland's 1938 team went undefeated and was proclaimed national champion by several outlets. His 1939 squad is notable for being the last college football team to go an entire regular season unscored upon, shutting out every opponent. From November 5, 1938 to December 9, 1939, the Vols ran off 17 straight shutouts and 71 consecutive shutout quarters—records that have never been seriously threatened. Neyland completed another undefeated regular season in 1940. He was recalled to military service again in 1941.

In the prime of his career, he was called to serve, TWICE, how many titles would he have if not for WWII?


Any top 4 list that doesn't include Neyland should be immediately ignored and the poster of said list should be banished to the fiery depths of Satan's anus for all eternity, Amen.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 8:48 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:46 am to
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:53 am to
It may have been the first ranked win or something but im sure SEC teams had those wins before 1965
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:04 am to
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Any top 4 list that doesn't include Neyland should be immediately ignored and the poster of said list should be banished to the fiery depths of Satan's anus for all eternity




Posted by 1badboy
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:10 am to
Paul Detsiel & the Chinese bandits national championship in football!
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:13 am to
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You got to have a natty to be considered, so Dye is out.


1983 bro
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:17 am to
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1983 bro


So we should put Howard Schnellenberger on the SEC Mount Rushmore?
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:20 am to
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Broyles team entered the sec so his records count even tho he wasn't in the sec when he accomplished them




No they don't. He coached in the SWC. Broyles was a good coach, but not an SEC coach.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:25 am to
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Saban, Bear, Spurrier, Neyland



This.


Broyles. LOL
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:26 am to
Dooley is in no way on this list.

Give it another decade or so and good chance he's only the 3rd best coach in UGA history, he sure ain't gonna be a top 4 coach in SEC history.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:26 am to
Top 5 SEC Coaches of all time:
1a. Bear Bryant
1b. Nick Saban
3. Robert Neyland
4. Steve Spurrier
5. Johnny Vaught
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:33 am to
Bryant, Saban and Neyland are shoo ins. The last spot is between Spurrier and Dooley. Both won 1 natty and 6 SEC titles. Dooley was at UGA twice as long as Spurrier was at Florida but Spurrier had a career .817 winning percentage there and Dooley had .715. Spurrier unarguably changed the SEC, while Dooley did not. Tie goes to Spurrier.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:39 am to
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The last spot is between Spurrier and Dooley


I'm a UGA fan and I don't support this in any way. If I'm being honest, dooley was pretty overrated historically on the back of herschel. I know those years count of course, and obviously if you take away ANY coaches "golden years" they won't look as good, but Sans-Herschel (greatest cfb player of all time) dooley coached 22 seasons with 3 SEC titles. That's not top-4 worthy.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:50 am to
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The last spot is between Spurrier and Dooley. Both won 1 natty and 6 SEC titles.


If you're going to use that criteria, then you have to include Vaught in the discussion. 6 SEC Championships, 3 National Championships (2 can be argued against, but that 1960 championship is legit), 6 time SEC Coach of the Year.

IMHO, Spurrier goes in above both Vaught and Dooley.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by RollDawgRoll
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:55 am to
Bryant and Saban on all time All conference Rushmore as well. Whoever you argue to fill out SEC can’t really match up
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88705 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:55 am to
I just don't see how you leave spurrier off. The only thing that hurts him is "only" winning 1 national title but otherwise he checks all the boxes. But what gives him the nod above many others is that he completely transformed the landscape of the entire conference, probably more so than just about anyone else in league history. Sure there have been better coaches, like Saban, but Saban isn't doing anything revolutionary; he runs the ball, plays elite defense, and has the benefit of being more talented than any team they play against. Spurrier came in an era where the SEC was exactly that (pound the ball and stop the run) and totally flipped it on its head. That alone should give him the nod over most others.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:05 am to
Agreed, which is why I would rank Spurrier at #4.

I was just doing a top 5 ranking (yes, I know only 4 for Mt Rushmore), with that 5th spot being battled out between Vaught and Dooley. I give Vaught the nod (not being a homer) because he was more consistent than Dooley. In addition, just like Spurrier, Vaught was at the forefront of changing the offense in college football in the South (Split-T, Wing-T, and one of the first college coaches to use the Power-I).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:05 am to
Mt Rushmore
Nick Saban
Bear Bryant
General Robert Neyland
Steve Spurrier

JV Mt Rushmore located somewhere in the Badlands
Frank Thomas
Bobby Dodd
Johnny Vaught
Dan McGugin

Honorable Mention
Wallace Wade
Phillip Fulmer
Urban Meyer (mainly because of short period of time at UF)
Shug Jordan
Pat Dye
Paul Dietzel
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 10:10 am
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:12 am to
Gotta put a visor on SOS.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:57 am to
General Neyland has to be on the Mount.

Broyles is an all time great but not for SEC, he's on the now locked SWC Mt Rushmore.
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