re: Mizzou Timeline 2015-2020

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Is this Mrs. Odom?

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Yes. Can't you tell by the vaginal discharge in the OP?

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HC fired despite overall program upswing culturally.

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Lol. The “star transfer” QB fricked the TE’s girlfriend and the team won one game after that, losing 5 games in a row.

Meanwhile, the Head coach begged the AD to fire him. The AD acquiesced.

the issue with bryant was accounted for in my posts. bo played with fire, got burnt.

anyone can understand why he pursued a national recruit with a colorful personality to play the most recognized position on the team, on top of that he's black and the university was still in clean up mode from 2015. it was a perfect opportunity to put mizzou in a positive light and receive unprecedented attention in the media.

it didn't work out. he was bad on and off the field. shite happens. the overall deal was moving in the right direction.

it seems actually addressing the truth of it all makes people like you get a tummy ache

short and selective memories are easier to manage

there is an inherent problem when the core of a fanbase doesn't have a truthful connection to the past

so alpha and masculine of you

results

all that matters

yeah, that's the archetypical man thing to say and I'm sure it empowers you to say it but I like to take everything possible into account, which usually results in an understanding that supersedes surface level emotional responses.

I believe this type of attention to details and faithfulness to truth is important, especially when you're talking about decisions that have multi-decade implications.

the typical mizzou fan not only doesn't take into account the 10ish things I listed off in response to the question: what unprecedented challenges

but more importantly the average mizzou fan doesn't even really know or remember a lot of those things and certainly can't recall them all at once and place them all in motion at the same time to generate an understanding.

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the overall deal was moving in the right direction.

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He lost to Vanderbilt. He was 0-for-Kentucky. And he was awful at recruiting, handling boosters, dealing with AD and the press.

Other than that, everything was awesome.

Lost 3 games in his last season that the Tigers were favored in by 17 points each, under performed. Give it up he is fricking gone.

In 2015 we had the opportunity to get MATT CAMPBELL from Toledo ala GP and MATT RHULE from Temple.

FACT-Both of those guys were in, and our inept AD with our inept admin that would be cleansed from the worst leadership in higher Ed history decided to play it safe out of fear because so many players threatened to leave if Odom was not hired.

The 2015 Missouri Tigers football program and admin were a case study in what happens when grown adults fear sophomoric college kids.

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Lost 3 games in his last season that the Tigers were favored in by 17 points each, under performed. Give

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qb was terrible

qb ruined the meta elements of the team for a short period, particularly the Vandy game

qb was recruited to polish Mizzou's image in the media and provide a colorful player at the most spotlighted position on the team for one year as they transitioned from Lock to Bazelak.

the entire house was improving and trending positively, the front door that they borrowed for a year was a mess.

You are being completely overdramatic.

Racial unrest has been happening forever, Ferguson happened in 2014, which boiled up to local items in 2015.

Lifelong fans and alumni that are "done" with the University were living in the moment. We have had plenty of support by super donors, lifelong alumni, and fans throughout the state. We did lose the casual fan for a time being, and that showed in our attendance drop off, but we were still avg 50k+ fans despite a terrible on the field performance.

Significant enrollment drop off happened for a 2 year period, where we have already surpassed the "blip".

System wide "shock" was what was needed. This goes back to your supposed point of the entire state hated the University. No we didn't, we were pissed off that there was no leadership. And then the cleanup of leadership led us to a better University.

Athletes from STL were not totally done with Mizzou football. We had many recruits still on the team from Missouri and STL, we still recruited starters from STL and Missouri. The 2017 class had 1 recruit play P5, from the entire state. That class is now why were are having issues.

2016 team was right there with a team full of Pinkel recruits. We had a roster to make a bowl game, but we lost to Georgia on a last second touchdown and fumble, and lost to Middle Tenn on homecoming, and was uncompetitive vs average Kentucky (7-6) and South Carolina (6-7) teams.

We started the 2017 going 1-5, only win was vs MO State where we gave up 43 points. It was a coaching issue with the talent we had on that team, which we did rally to get to a bowl game without beating a single team with a winning record.

The Tiger 10 was an absolute disaster of a recruiting plan for the 2018 class, but that had to do with the lack of on the field success more than anything. We were never going to land all of those players, but had a chance to land Perkins if we were anywhere close to relevant. We did land Parker. But this class was probably a year too early.

2018 on the field had success, but not to the expectation with the talent on the team. We weren't going to beat Georgia (some really bad calls early in that game), or at Alabama. But we easily should have been 10-2 going into a bowl game. Majority was the level of talent from the last 2 recruiting classes left over from Pinkel, and Barry hitting on some under recruited players. But that season sold the fans on that Barry was not going to be the man to replace the man.

Stadium tear down to sell the future, really had nothing to do with Barry being a bad head coach.

The NCAA investigation had nothing to do with the prior to the 2019 season, and really nothing to do with the on the field performance. That team fell apart the first game and the fan base was done. So much build up to fall flat on our face. After the 2018 season which was supposed to go so well, than that, the writing was on the wall.

I already said that I appreciated Odom for what he did, we were kept afloat, we didn't hit rock bottom. But he couldn't build a program, and was not a good game day head coach. But that was his ceiling, .500.

Drinkwitz is coming in to a better culture than what happened to the University in 2015, but not a better roster situation.

One thing that did happen, and I know it was a regret from the staff going into the SEC the first couple of seasons, was they tried to recruit SEC territory while abandoning Texas. It did not work out.

I am not expecting a much better season than what we had this year, we will be around the .500 mark until Drinkwitz can build his team, and we are head and shoulders better in that department from a year ago.