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Mizzou Timeline 2015-2020
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:36 pm
2015: HC has a DUI on record, Lake of the Ozarks regular at party cove, staff as well, starting QB doing cocaine on game days, culture in disarray, race riots, poop swastika, system wide firings all the way up to MU system president.
2016: First year HC. Entire state of Missouri hates Mizzou. Lifelong fans and alumni vow to be done with the school forever. Roster made up of failed recruiting classes that looked good on signing day, but a drastic failure in getting the kids to campus cause roster issues.
2017: Most Missourians still hate Mizzou. Offense sets Mizzou and SEC passing records. Winning record: 7-6
2018: Stadium half torn down. Terrible fan experience. Most Missourians still not ready to support, stadium tear down gives excuse to stay away another year. Offense is high end. Winning record: 8-5
2019: NCAA investigation and sanctions pop up thanks to previous HC. Huge distraction just as things are turning positive. Transition year with nationally recruited QB transfer who failed miserably. 6-6. HC fired despite overall program upswing culturally.
2020: QB recruited by previous coach to lead his program is SEC FR of the year, LB he recruited and groomed is Butkus award finalist.
Mizzou doesn't have a strong core of fans that have a firm grasp of the real narrative of the program. Because of this lack of core false narratives can spread fast.
The truth is most Mizzou fans didn't get what they wanted in 2016, so they spent 4 years protesting and looking at the most negative angle on anything until they were able to get what they wanted - sound familiar to anything else in that same 2016-2020 4 year timeline? Yep.
2016: First year HC. Entire state of Missouri hates Mizzou. Lifelong fans and alumni vow to be done with the school forever. Roster made up of failed recruiting classes that looked good on signing day, but a drastic failure in getting the kids to campus cause roster issues.
2017: Most Missourians still hate Mizzou. Offense sets Mizzou and SEC passing records. Winning record: 7-6
2018: Stadium half torn down. Terrible fan experience. Most Missourians still not ready to support, stadium tear down gives excuse to stay away another year. Offense is high end. Winning record: 8-5
2019: NCAA investigation and sanctions pop up thanks to previous HC. Huge distraction just as things are turning positive. Transition year with nationally recruited QB transfer who failed miserably. 6-6. HC fired despite overall program upswing culturally.
2020: QB recruited by previous coach to lead his program is SEC FR of the year, LB he recruited and groomed is Butkus award finalist.
Mizzou doesn't have a strong core of fans that have a firm grasp of the real narrative of the program. Because of this lack of core false narratives can spread fast.
The truth is most Mizzou fans didn't get what they wanted in 2016, so they spent 4 years protesting and looking at the most negative angle on anything until they were able to get what they wanted - sound familiar to anything else in that same 2016-2020 4 year timeline? Yep.
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Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:39 pm to Hidden Tiger
So basically Odom kept the program afloat while digging out of a cultural dumpster fire.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:40 pm to Beached Tusky
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So basically Odom kept the program afloat while digging out of a cultural dumpster fire.
Makes sense.
Yep, and zero of it was appreciated or really actually even understood by the people who were supposed to understand.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:46 pm to Hidden Tiger
Is this Mrs. Odom?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:50 pm to Hidden Tiger
This is actually Barry Odom’s mom posting.
No shite
No shite
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:52 pm to JesusQuintana
Just a reasonable man who see's the truth.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:56 pm to Hidden Tiger
You're trash. And stupid.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:56 pm to Hidden Tiger
and still lost to them. So...thanks.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:58 pm to Miznoz
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You're trash. And stupid.
What shared here isn't true?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:59 pm to Hidden Tiger
Your take on the “direction” of the program is laughable.
Odom’s career was plagued by poor game day coaching, mediocre recruiting, and inability to get along with others creating high staff turnover.
The 2019 season was an unmitigated disaster...a team expected to finish near the top of the East, they started with an embarrassing loss at Wyoming. They then fought back to reach 5-1 and a top 25 ranking heading into Vanderbilt. They proceeded to lose as a ranked team to VANDERBILT (their only SEC win) in a game which was never really in doubt. This lead to a 5 game losing streak in which he lost the locker room and the team clearly mailed it in. (He at least took care of the annual “gimme” win against Arkansas to close the season)
Barry was the “safe” hire in 2016 to stabilize the program...he accomplished that. 2019 proved that he was not the guy to take us to the next level.
Odom’s career was plagued by poor game day coaching, mediocre recruiting, and inability to get along with others creating high staff turnover.
The 2019 season was an unmitigated disaster...a team expected to finish near the top of the East, they started with an embarrassing loss at Wyoming. They then fought back to reach 5-1 and a top 25 ranking heading into Vanderbilt. They proceeded to lose as a ranked team to VANDERBILT (their only SEC win) in a game which was never really in doubt. This lead to a 5 game losing streak in which he lost the locker room and the team clearly mailed it in. (He at least took care of the annual “gimme” win against Arkansas to close the season)
Barry was the “safe” hire in 2016 to stabilize the program...he accomplished that. 2019 proved that he was not the guy to take us to the next level.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:07 pm to KCM0Tiger
You could also say Odom's career as HC at Mizzou was plagued by cultural and recruiting issues form the previous regime as well as stadium teardown and NCAA investigation and sanctions that had nothing to do with him. Not to mention literal statewide hatred and apathy for Mizzou that again had nothing to do with him.
In 2019 he won a nationally broadcast recruiting battle for Kelly Bryant, which did wonders for race healing at a school that needed that media boost.
Tough-horrible unforeseen and unpredictable outcome as Bryant wasn't very good and ruined the team with his behavior off the field.
Anyone who was paying attention over those 4 years without contempt in their heart because they didn't get what the wanted in a coaching hire could easily see an overall upswing in all things Mizzou Football.
In 2019 he won a nationally broadcast recruiting battle for Kelly Bryant, which did wonders for race healing at a school that needed that media boost.
Tough-horrible unforeseen and unpredictable outcome as Bryant wasn't very good and ruined the team with his behavior off the field.
Anyone who was paying attention over those 4 years without contempt in their heart because they didn't get what the wanted in a coaching hire could easily see an overall upswing in all things Mizzou Football.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:13 pm to Hidden Tiger
You forgot
11-5-2015 State 31 Mizzou 13 Dak made their asses quit
12-19-2020 State-51 Mizzou-32
11-5-2015 State 31 Mizzou 13 Dak made their asses quit
12-19-2020 State-51 Mizzou-32
This post was edited on 12/26/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:15 pm to msudawg1200
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You forgot
11-5-2015 State 31 Mizzou 13 Dak made their asses quit
12-19-2020 State-51 Mizzou-32
Thanks, Tugboat
Fittingly, both those games weren't coached by Barry.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:37 pm to Hidden Tiger
Im convinced OP is Barry Odom
This post was edited on 12/26/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:42 pm to MizzouTrue
What said here isn't true?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:45 pm to Hidden Tiger
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What said here isn't true?
I think your timeline is fair, but you are missing the situation surrounding Odom’s termination.
He had a good run at Mizzou and probably deserves a little more respect, I’ll give you that.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:46 pm to Hidden Tiger
I wanted Odom to succeed but he was a bad game day coach and these issues never improved. The team was also undisciplined at times. The 2018 team was a good team that should’ve gone 10-2, atleast 9-3
I never felt like he was “the guy.” We’ll have to see what Drink can do in the future, and no, he doesn’t have it easy either. Missouri was supposed to be the 2nd worst team in the East this year, instead we’re 6th in the SEC
I never felt like he was “the guy.” We’ll have to see what Drink can do in the future, and no, he doesn’t have it easy either. Missouri was supposed to be the 2nd worst team in the East this year, instead we’re 6th in the SEC
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:48 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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but you are missing the situation surrounding Odom’s termination.
Can you expand?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:49 pm to Hidden Tiger
Why are you trying to make Mizzou look bad?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:52 pm to MizzouTrue
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I never felt like he was “the guy.” We’ll have to see what Drink can do in the future, and no, he doesn’t have it easy either. Missouri was supposed to be the 2nd worst team in the East this year, instead we’re 6th in the SEC
You never felt he was the guy because the collective never wanted him to be. Fans and media never embraced it.
There's some deep takes on this, I believe Mizzou missed out on a desperately needed feeling of 'new' after 15ish years of Pinkel and the way that ordeal ended.
And Mizzou was picked where they were in the SEC because only people like myself who pay attention could have predicted the season Connor Bazelak had.
And most experts fell victim to the fact that coaches are usually fired when things are really bad, which they weren't at Mizzou. The combination of predicted upswings for TN and FL and predicted downswings for Mizzou with no returning QB and a new coach were reasonable from typical outside 'experts'.
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