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Posted on 7/14/21 at 6:47 am to BowlJackson
Posted on 7/14/21 at 6:47 am to BowlJackson
Another strong start then the wheels fall off?
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:07 am to momentoftruth87
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at least they are finally playing a respectable schedule.
Arkansas 2018 OOC
E Illinois
Colorado State
North Texas
Tulsa
Arkansas 2019 OOC
Portland State
Colorado State
San Jose State
Western Kentucky
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:20 am to MNW
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Arkansas 2018 OOC
E Illinois
Colorado State
North Texas
Tulsa
Arkansas 2019 OOC
Portland State
Colorado State
San Jose State
Western Kentucky
And they didn't even win all of these.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:20 am to Poker Dough
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Another strong start then the wheels fall off?
Last season the wheels came off after week one. How do you define a strong start?
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:21 am to BayouBengal21
7-5 is reasonable and what most State fans expect. 8-4 is the ceiling.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:21 am to Reservoir dawg
“If Leach wins no more than 5 games he won't want to return for year 3.”
Man, what planet are you living on?
Leach will be our coach until 2030 or longer (He will retire at State).
He is a proven winner who has been successful for almost twenty years. I know in today’s society, people want results now but in his case, we need a little patience to allow his program to develop. We saw measurable development at the end of last season.
I have no idea of how many games we win this year but we will be better.
La Tech, NC State, Memphis are all good OOC games (no gimmies there) unlike some of our conference friends who are playing one or maybe two decent OOC’s. We have three on the books.
Back to the HC. At State, stability helps the program. Moorhead only being here two years hurt overall though he did recruit well. The longer Leach is at State the better we will be. He will want to be here for year three and beyond.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:22 am to Reservoir dawg
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If Leach wins no more than 5 games he won't want to return for year 3.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:24 am to Drebin
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And they didn't even win all of these
They didn't even win most of them, went 4-4
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:42 am to BayouBengal21
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La Tech W
NC State W
Memphis W
LSU Toss up
Texas A&M L
Vandy - W
Kentucky - W
Alabama L
Arkansas W
Auburn Toss up
TN State W
Ole Miss Toss up
I think we get 7 wins with a shot at 9
I’m not convinced LSU will be back and I’m not sold on the OM hype.
I think auburn will be very beatable as will Arkansas
Posted on 7/14/21 at 10:59 am to deltaland
Wait, you’re not sold on the OM hype? Shocking.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:15 am to Insideradvantage
I like breaking schedules down into segments
Segment 1: Non-Conference
La Tech W
NC State W
Memphis W
All three of these teams qualify as good OOC teams. NC State was 8-4 last season in a P5 conference, Memphis was a respectable 8-3 and Louisiana Tech was 5-5.
State could go anywhere between 1-2 and 3-0 here. I feel like they will beat LT handily and then win a tight game with NC State to give them momentum heading into the Memphis game.
3-0: 60% chance
2-1: 30% chance
1-2: 10% chance
0-3: <1% chance
Segment 2: Opening Conference Slate
LSU Toss up
Texas A&M L
Vandy - W
Kentucky - W
Again, 2-2 seems the most likely, followed by 3-1. I feel like Vanderbilt and Kentucky are wins, with LSU a possible win. I do not think State wins at College Station, but 4-0 in this segment is probably the third most likely outcome.
2-2: 50% chance
3-1: 25% chance
4-0: 10% chance
1-3: 10% chance
0-4: 5% chance
Segment 3: The A Train
Alabama L
Arkansas W
Auburn Toss up
Alabama is a sure L, but how good is Arkansas and Auburn going to be. 1-2 looks like the most likely outcome.
1-2: 65% chance
2-1: 25% chance
0-3: 10% chance
3-0: <1% chance
Segment 4: Cupcake and Rivalry
TN State W
Ole Miss Toss up
Tennessee State is a sure win, and the Egg Bowl is at home.
2-0: 65% chance
1-1: 35% chance
0-2 <1% chance
8-4 is the best case realistic scenario. With 6-6/7-5 the most likely scenario, followed by 5-7, followed by 9-3. 10+ wins and <4 wins are the long shots.
Segment 1: Non-Conference
La Tech W
NC State W
Memphis W
All three of these teams qualify as good OOC teams. NC State was 8-4 last season in a P5 conference, Memphis was a respectable 8-3 and Louisiana Tech was 5-5.
State could go anywhere between 1-2 and 3-0 here. I feel like they will beat LT handily and then win a tight game with NC State to give them momentum heading into the Memphis game.
3-0: 60% chance
2-1: 30% chance
1-2: 10% chance
0-3: <1% chance
Segment 2: Opening Conference Slate
LSU Toss up
Texas A&M L
Vandy - W
Kentucky - W
Again, 2-2 seems the most likely, followed by 3-1. I feel like Vanderbilt and Kentucky are wins, with LSU a possible win. I do not think State wins at College Station, but 4-0 in this segment is probably the third most likely outcome.
2-2: 50% chance
3-1: 25% chance
4-0: 10% chance
1-3: 10% chance
0-4: 5% chance
Segment 3: The A Train
Alabama L
Arkansas W
Auburn Toss up
Alabama is a sure L, but how good is Arkansas and Auburn going to be. 1-2 looks like the most likely outcome.
1-2: 65% chance
2-1: 25% chance
0-3: 10% chance
3-0: <1% chance
Segment 4: Cupcake and Rivalry
TN State W
Ole Miss Toss up
Tennessee State is a sure win, and the Egg Bowl is at home.
2-0: 65% chance
1-1: 35% chance
0-2 <1% chance
8-4 is the best case realistic scenario. With 6-6/7-5 the most likely scenario, followed by 5-7, followed by 9-3. 10+ wins and <4 wins are the long shots.
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:26 am to Reservoir dawg
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Have been playing a respectable schedule for well over a century. Arkansas has not.
This claim is patently incorrect.
Let's look at State's regular season out-of-conference foes since 2009, Dan Mullen's first season in Starkville. I'll highlight the P5 or major independent teams (Notre Dame, BYU, Army, etc.).
2009 - Jackson State, Georgia Tech, Houston, Middle Tennessee State
2010 - Memphis, Alcorn State, Houston, UAB
2011 - Memphis, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Tennessee-Martin
2012 - Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama, Middle Tennessee State
2013 - Oklahoma State, Alcorn State, Troy, Bowling Green
2014 - Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama, Tennessee-Martin
2015 - Southern Miss, Northwestern State, Troy, Louisiana Tech
2016 - South Alabama, UMass, BYU, Samford
2017 - Charleston Southern, Louisiana Tech, BYU, UMass
2018 - Stephen F. Austin, Kansas State, UL-Lafayette, Louisiana Tech
2019 - UL-Lafayette, Southern Miss, Kansas State, Abilene Christian
Just 5/44 of State's regular season, out-of-conference games since 2009 have come against Power 5 teams or BYU. On the other hand, State has played Sun Belt or Conference USA teams 24/44 times (more than 50% of the time).
In conclusion,
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:28 am to BobLeeDagger
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7-5 is reasonable and what most State fans expect. 8-4 is the ceiling.
Without looking at the schedule, 7-5 is jumping out at me as the correct pick. In those 7 wins will be an upset, in the 5 losses will also be an upset.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:31 am to BayouBengal21
Leach will find a way to get us to .500 at a minimum. that looks like a 7 win schedule to me, but with leach, he is going to pull some upsets, but might lose one he souldnt.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:37 am to BayouBengal21
Bo Nix has thrown for 515 yds 4 TDs and no INTs vs Miss State in his only 2 years, 2021 wont be any different.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:42 am to Tornado Alley
la tech, southern miss, and memphis are obviously not power 5, but they are solid and respectable teams that can and do beat P5 teams. defining "respectable" as power 5 would mean teams like Kansas are respectable...which they obviously arent. southern miss has been pretty horrible lately, but these schedules are made years in advance.
these teams are certainly not utep, north texas, uab type teams more years than not.
you could throw Houston into this group as well.
these teams are certainly not utep, north texas, uab type teams more years than not.
you could throw Houston into this group as well.
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 11:44 am
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:44 am to BayouBengal21
La Tech W
NC State L
Memphis W
LSU L
Texas A&M L
Vandy - W
Kentucky - W
Alabama L
Arkansas W
Auburn L
TN State W
Ole Miss L
6-6. Not sure how familiar people here are with NC State but they return most of their production off a team that went 8-4 last year.
NC State L
Memphis W
LSU L
Texas A&M L
Vandy - W
Kentucky - W
Alabama L
Arkansas W
Auburn L
TN State W
Ole Miss L
6-6. Not sure how familiar people here are with NC State but they return most of their production off a team that went 8-4 last year.
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 11:45 am
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:46 am to Drebin
Did they even get to .500 against these? I know they lost to NT, CSU once, SJSU and WKU.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:48 am to Shamoan
I think Memphis will take just enough of a step back this year to allow a comfy win, but weird things happen at the Liberty Bowl.
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