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re: Milroe runs a 4.37 at pro day, third-best time by a QB ever
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:18 pm to Jenar Boy
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:18 pm to Jenar Boy
You can’t teach sub 4.40 speed. And you can’t teach someone how to process information and make a good decision before everyone else on the field. You also can’t measure both.
But you can measure a 40. And if a quarterback can run a sub 4.40 some team will take a chance that they can teach him how to make it click on the field. Most won’t. But that is also true for quarterbacks that run a 4.80 40. At least one guy is faster.
But you can measure a 40. And if a quarterback can run a sub 4.40 some team will take a chance that they can teach him how to make it click on the field. Most won’t. But that is also true for quarterbacks that run a 4.80 40. At least one guy is faster.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:25 pm to paperwasp
Where is Opry?
His entire existence here has revolved around hating Jalen Milroe.
Weird that he disappeared now.
His entire existence here has revolved around hating Jalen Milroe.
Weird that he disappeared now.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:57 am to makersmark1
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Some GM will draft him.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:45 am to paperwasp
All Milroe can do really well is run fast in a general straight line. He is a HORRIBLE QB and mentally deficient delusional person.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:56 am to Lolathon234
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You jest, but no NFL defense is currently built to contain him. Elite deep ball, strong enough to break LB/DB tackles, faster than pretty much everyone on the field.
And the football IQ of a colorful dishrag. He’s indecisive, inaccurate, and doesn’t play well in a structured environment.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:13 am to Smokeyone
Blah blah blah. Same things were said about hurts and nix. Pro ball is a different game with 1000% better qb coaches. In the right system with time to develop, jalen will do well.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:52 am to paperwasp
When he had good coaches he was good. But when he had bad coaches he was horrid.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:08 am to paperwasp
That’s because he is a RB
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:38 am to paperwasp
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After today I have a feeling someone will take a chance on turning him into the next Lamar Jackson.
I'm personally not a fan of that style and prefer a pocket passer, but more power to him if he can somehow just get to the league.
Guys like Tim Tebow and Jalen Hurts were told the same thing (about changing positions) — one failed miserably and one just won the Super Bowl, so I guess anything could happen.
every QB you named in here was, at minimum, a Heisman trophy finalist in college, with two of them winning. I think it's a lot different drafting a "project" QB who was still a very good player in college than drafting a project QB who wasn't.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:39 am to Atxgump
Both Hurts and Nix were draftable because they got the coaching they needed when they left the state of Alabama to go to better systems. Milroe doesn’t have that.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:01 am to paperwasp
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In all seriousness, I read today where the rules committee may ban it during the offseason.
The Packers have officially entered a proposal to change the NFL rules to ban it.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:03 am to paperwasp
Milroe is incredible when he will just turn up field and run. Last season he was trying to make guys miss and was running laterally too much.
I wish him all the success in the world.
I wish him all the success in the world.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:24 am to Roll Tide Ravens
He didn’t just run laterally …he ran backwards multiple times. I’ve said it before but he has all the tools to be a beast. He’s just missing the tool between his ears.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:48 am to makersmark1
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Some GM will draft him.
It’s all about potential.
Working well for Anthony Richardson so far
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:07 am to lsufball19
It depends on what you want to do.
If you want to draft a prototype pocket passer, develop him, and build several generations around him over 15 years, I think he's a big no.
*Guys like Brees, Manning, Brady, etc. They secure the position for over a decade, you go through a couple crops of WRs and RBs, and usually most of the rest of the team too. You MAY have a lineman or so that lasts as long as him.
If you accept you're not gonna do that, and want to try to win and go to the playoffs and see what happens, in a relatively small window, using a supreme athlete at the QB position- I could see Milroe being that guy.
*The Cam Newton model, basically. As long as he's got fresh legs, he will ALWAYS have the ability to break off big runs, so he contorts the defense in a way the pocket guy can't, and his run threat makes the other parts easier as a result. But when he's no longer a threat to run and you can play him as a pocket guy, he's done.
I see Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts as that. I don't care about completion percentage and say "oh look he's got a good percentage, he is a good passer", you can tell those guys are open because the defense is hedging against his run. It's basically the ultimate play-action pass, you HAVE to prevent that 20 yd run.
It's what colleges do with these guys, because they don't get to keep them more than a few years anyway. I could see Milroe taking an otherwise mid-tier team and making them a playoff contender for a few years, I just don't think you get a decade + from him.
I'm a Saints fan, I don't know that I would want to take that. But let's use the Saints as an example: you're missing the playoffs every year now that Brees is gone. You still have Kamara and a decent defense, both of who would be gone by the time you draft a franchise passer and develop him; or you could take a Milroe and run a college-type offense, probably win 9-10 games a year for a few years. You're just not looking at a long-term (decade plus) solution, but it could get you above the "we're never going to make the playoffs" threshold.
And who knows, he could develop. Brady was a late round pick, nobody ever saw him becoming even a consistent starter.
If you want to draft a prototype pocket passer, develop him, and build several generations around him over 15 years, I think he's a big no.
*Guys like Brees, Manning, Brady, etc. They secure the position for over a decade, you go through a couple crops of WRs and RBs, and usually most of the rest of the team too. You MAY have a lineman or so that lasts as long as him.
If you accept you're not gonna do that, and want to try to win and go to the playoffs and see what happens, in a relatively small window, using a supreme athlete at the QB position- I could see Milroe being that guy.
*The Cam Newton model, basically. As long as he's got fresh legs, he will ALWAYS have the ability to break off big runs, so he contorts the defense in a way the pocket guy can't, and his run threat makes the other parts easier as a result. But when he's no longer a threat to run and you can play him as a pocket guy, he's done.
I see Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts as that. I don't care about completion percentage and say "oh look he's got a good percentage, he is a good passer", you can tell those guys are open because the defense is hedging against his run. It's basically the ultimate play-action pass, you HAVE to prevent that 20 yd run.
It's what colleges do with these guys, because they don't get to keep them more than a few years anyway. I could see Milroe taking an otherwise mid-tier team and making them a playoff contender for a few years, I just don't think you get a decade + from him.
I'm a Saints fan, I don't know that I would want to take that. But let's use the Saints as an example: you're missing the playoffs every year now that Brees is gone. You still have Kamara and a decent defense, both of who would be gone by the time you draft a franchise passer and develop him; or you could take a Milroe and run a college-type offense, probably win 9-10 games a year for a few years. You're just not looking at a long-term (decade plus) solution, but it could get you above the "we're never going to make the playoffs" threshold.
And who knows, he could develop. Brady was a late round pick, nobody ever saw him becoming even a consistent starter.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:42 am to Scoob
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If you accept you're not gonna do that, and want to try to win and go to the playoffs and see what happens, in a relatively small window, using a supreme athlete at the QB position- I could see Milroe being that guy.
*The Cam Newton model, basically. As long as he's got fresh legs, he will ALWAYS have the ability to break off big runs, so he contorts the defense in a way the pocket guy can't, and his run threat makes the other parts easier as a result. But when he's no longer a threat to run and you can play him as a pocket guy, he's done.
again, you're naming another player who was ELITE in college. Milroe is a guy who struggled at the college level. You can't draft a guy like that as a quick fix until his athletic abilities diminish because you first have to fix him. Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton, Vince Young, Michael Vick, et al, were awesome in college.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:52 am to lsufball19
Milroe was better as a passer at the collegiate level than Vick and fairly equal with Jackson.
I think he has the physical ability to be as good of a runner as anyone, just seems to lack the top tier instincts that those guys had.
I think he has the physical ability to be as good of a runner as anyone, just seems to lack the top tier instincts that those guys had.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:56 am to paperwasp
I don’t get Bama fans …. They wanted Hurts benched for Tua and wanted Hurts gone and when he has success somewhere else they want to reclaim him……
They have hated on Milroe saying he’s the sole reason they had a down year this year ! Now when he runs faster than most WRs run he is a great Bama player …… LOL someone help me understand the stupidity of Bama fans ?
They have hated on Milroe saying he’s the sole reason they had a down year this year ! Now when he runs faster than most WRs run he is a great Bama player …… LOL someone help me understand the stupidity of Bama fans ?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:01 pm to Soonerd78
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I don’t get Bama fans …. They wanted Hurts benched for Tua and wanted Hurts gone and when he has success somewhere else they want to reclaim him……
No one wanted Hurts "gone." He literally saved our arse in the SECCG against UGA a month and half before he left Bama. If anything Hurts was loved the most by Bama fans at the end of his Bama career.
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They have hated on Milroe saying he’s the sole reason they had a down year this year ! Now when he runs faster than most WRs run he is a great Bama player LOL someone help me understand the stupidity of Bama fans ?
No one is calling him a "great player." His 40 time was impressive, and people are talking about it. Its funny that you are calling people stupid when this has to be explained to you.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:04 pm to lsufan1971
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I was watching SEC network we he ran. The time on the field that the SECN reported by the scouts was 4.46. Bama reported later it was 4.37. SECN guys even joked about not believing the time reported by BAMA. That being said 4.46 is still hauling arse
His official time ended up being a 4.0 flat. The more impressive thing about his 40 was that he recorded the 2nd fastest "10" (first 10 yards) ever at 1.44 seconds and the fastest ever for a QB prospect. Not sure how valuable that is but it shows he has initial burst which is huge for a pass rusher prospect, not sure it means anything for a QB
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