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re: Matt Jones in a spread offense would have won a MNC.

Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:56 pm to
He was better than cam, if he didn't injure his throwing shoulder in high school and with a different coach then he might have been one of the best quarterbacks in SEC history. But he had a shitty work ethic and that wasn't going to change.

If it wasn't for Matt Jones in 2001, Nutt would have been fired much earlier.
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:57 pm to
Matt Jones was a freak athlete!
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:58 pm to
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If MJ would have played a few years later


Just one year later and he would have been in the same backfield as Darren McFadden, Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis

Nutt knew how to find some really good players but he didn't always play them in the right positions. He worked Ryan Mallett out at TE during a camp and that's one reason he didn't come here out of high school. Jones might have gone to OU if he wasn't promised a shot at QB here but I often wonder what it would have been like with him at WR and Tarvaris Jackson at QB. Jackson wasn't that good here but he only had around 50 attempts in two years. Obviously he was good enough to hang around in the NFL for a while.
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:59 pm to
frick Matt Jones. Such a goddamn bust in the NFL
Posted by dstone12
Texan
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:02 pm to
Pretty sure Nutt had Arky at #3 in the country try at one time.

He sure ripped out our hearts for a few thanksgivings.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:05 pm to
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frick Matt Jones. Such a goddamn bust in the NFL


He had 2100 yards and 15 td's in 4 years, i mean he wasnt lighting the world on fire but he seemed to be figuring it out. In his last year he had 760 yards. The titans have signed almost exclusively receivers in the first round that never reached that production without a drug problem.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:09 pm to
Being mediocre as a player and then getting shunned from the league for drug problems definitely constitutes a bust
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:09 pm to
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Pretty sure Nutt had Arky at #3 in the country try at one time.

He sure ripped out our hearts for a few thanksgivings.



Petrino did, but I don't recall Nutt ever getting us up that high.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40882 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:16 pm to
We were #5 in the AP and #6 in the BCS going in to the LSU game in 2006.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Houston managed to coach a QB that went first round as a WR. And a TE that ended up as a 10 year All-pro and likely NFL hall of fame. At OL. Giggity.
Don't forget that Nutt wanted Ryan Mallett to play tight end which led to Ryan going to Michigan. He did get Mustain to sign but let's not delve into that cluster of a situation.

Or how about the time he played a QB from the intramural field (John Rutledge). It really says something when one of the most tenured NFL QBs who played under Nutt was Tarvaris Jackson and he had to transfer to Alabama State to get decent coaching.

Houston Nutt is a wannabe QB that thought he was better than he truly was. Quit the Razorbacks and transferred to Oklahoma State where he would ride the pine there. Nutt is and will always will be a cowpoke not a Razorback.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 2:01 pm to
Dude ran like a giraffe on cocaine.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 2:33 pm to
Matt Jones was not coachable and it's an insult to hard working committed players to hero worship that guy

He refused to learn proper passing progression over the course of four years

I'm no Nutt fan, so no ulterior motives for my opinion of Jones
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 2:36 pm to
Matt Jones came around about 10 years too early. His talent would be special in a modern spread offense. What he did to Texas in 2003 was incredible.

Similar to what it would be like if Vick came into the NFL now instead of in 2001.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 2:48 pm to
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Only Houston Nut could ruin a talent like that

So he wasn't all that great at heppin'?
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30974 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 2:55 pm to
Matt Jones

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Not so sure he had the quicks to be as effective running the option. Would be interesting though.


Watch the above. He ran wild running the option out of the gun.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:22 pm to
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Yeah that’s the last year we won the SEC West. Reggie nepotism Fish fumbling the damn punt in the SECCG cost us our best shot at an SEC title.

2006 Hogs would have beat any of the Petrino teams. They had such a great defensive line. Dominated a very good Auburn team and beat the piss out of a pretty good Tennessee team.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:07 pm to
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2006 Hogs would have beat any of the Petrino teams. They had such a great defensive line. Dominated a very good Auburn team and beat the piss out of a pretty good Tennessee team.


That was a weird year. We lost the opener to USC 50-14 and then won 10 straight games and a lot of them we dominated. Ended up losing 3 straight to LSU, Florida and Wisconsin (ironically coached by Bret Bielema) to end the year. Pretty sure we held Wisconsin RB PJ Hill to -3 yards rushing and still lost.

Not sure if they would beat the 2010 Petrino team but think they could take 2011. The 2006 game vs. Tennessee with College Gameday in attendance is one of my favorite games ever. Fulmer just had no answers for our run game.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:24 pm to
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. If someone like Malzahn was Arkansas coach back in the early 2000s and ran a modern no huddle spread offense, Ark would have easily won a national championship. Matt Jones was that special.
wrong, einstein. It takes more than a couple of great players to win a championship. Arkansas was 10 players away from winning a championship, not a theoretical coach. you'll be old enough to understand one day.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:46 pm to
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