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re: Matt Hayes says ESPN was not the problem and it really wasn't money. It was an insider....

Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:03 am to
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:03 am to
It's always about the money....always. We'll get to 9 sooner rather than later. But I do agree with Paul F- an 8 game SEC slate almost locks 3-4 SEC teams in the CFP.
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
3245 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:13 am to
I mean this honestly, not trying to be a jerk: College football will 100% be better off once Saban retires and is out of the picture. For a lot of reasons.

Now, If I'm an Alabama fan, I want him to coach for as long as possible, provided he maintains his current level or higher. But you folks need to be honest with yourselves. You know I'm right.
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:17 am to
Why would ESPN pay more for 9 conference games?
With a 16 team SEC and an 8 conference game schedule (plus 4 ooc), there are 128 games per regular season involving SEC teams. But with a 9 conference schedule (plus 3 ooc), there are 120 games involving SEC teams.
Some of the additional conference games might be more compelling, but it's 8 fewer games for ESPN to broadcast.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8669 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:19 am to
quote:

The schools that piggybacked off Alabama’s decision are scared little bitches too though
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or some of us actually went out and scheduled quality P5 opponents in upcoming years and don't want to back out of those deals.

sorry but no SEC school wants to play 9 SEC games and 2 P5 OOC teams
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
25014 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:22 am to
Why are we in such a hurry to give all SEC teams another loss?
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:26 am to
quote:

With a 16 team SEC and an 8 conference game schedule (plus 4 ooc), there are 128 games per regular season involving SEC teams. But with a 9 conference schedule (plus 3 ooc), there are 120 games involving SEC teams.
Some of the additional conference games might be more compelling, but it's 8 fewer games for ESPN to broadcast.


You're gonna have to walk me through the math on this one...
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:45 am to
16 teams * 8 conference games = 128. But since each team is playing each other, it's only half = 64 conference games.
16 teams * 4 ooc games = 64.
64 conference + 64 ooc = 128.

16 teams * 9 conference games = 144. But since each team is playing each other, it's only half = 72 conference games.
16 teams * 3 ooc games = 48.
72 conference + 48 ooc = 120.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14113 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:56 am to
I personally favor 9 SEC games, but the final decision should be made with two criteria IMO. (1) What gets us the most $$$ we can get. (2) What is best for the least competitive football programs in the conference.

The SEC continues to produce championship contenders playing just 8 SEC games every year. There is no competitive reason to go to 9 at least as far as producing national contenders is concerned.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11021 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:04 am to
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Why would ESPN pay more for 9 conference games?
With a 16 team SEC and an 8 conference game schedule (plus 4 ooc), there are 128 games per regular season involving SEC teams. But with a 9 conference schedule (plus 3 ooc), there are 120 games involving SEC teams.
Some of the additional conference games might be more compelling, but it's 8 fewer games for ESPN to broadcast.



Quality > Quantity

Why would someone pay $1000 for a bottle of Pappy when they could get 100 bottles of Rouses brand whiskey for the same price?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16720 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:05 am to
quote:

I mean this honestly, not trying to be a jerk: College football will 100% be better off once Saban retires and is out of the picture. For a lot of reasons.

CFB wont be better.

CFB is dying in front of our eyes as it turns into a regional minor league sport full of paid free agents rapidly destroying itself trying to maximize short term profits at the expense of long term sustainability.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
14454 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:28 am to
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Hope Texas stomps a mud hole in you butt and walks it dry.


Very nice Good Ol’ J.R. throwback

Although I’m not sure how he would feel if he saw this being used to describe an outcome they’d positive for the Longhorns.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2572 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:34 am to
Bama has FSU and Wisconsin on the schedule in 25 as 2 of the first 3 games.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:01 pm to
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Quality > Quantity


16 teams is the opposite of quality.
16 teams is the pure definition of quantity.

Only 4 SEC teams had a winning conference record last season.

So even if you are looking at Alabama as a quality opponent... they have a 1/3 chance of playing a terrible opponent. And a 1/2 chance of playing a mediocre opponent.

If 1/3 conference teams are really good, you have a 11% chance that we are watching 2 really good teams.

And the SEC isn't pairing up these matchups (versus playing out of conference games where UGA is pairing up with Clemson, Notre Dame, FSU, Louisville, Ohio State as our 2nd and 3rd OOC games per season).
The SEC is just alternating in order.
It isn't better scheduling.
It is "more of the same" which isn't better than each AD cherry picking a P5 opponent that the fans get excited about.

You think Bama fans get excited about Vandy, Miss St, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina, etc?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70258 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2934 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:22 pm to
Dayum!!! Greg. That was cold.
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2883 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:40 pm to
frick Sankey..but that quote if true is terminator shite.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
8863 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
Coach Satan, er, Saban has grown into a scaredy cat these days, jumping back from severe opposition deemed too much of a threat to his dominion.

This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39118 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Ark got UGA Tenn and Fla Bama got UK Mizzou and UGA How is that fair?


Tennessee was 3-7 that year and lost to UK by 4 touchdowns. Not your best argument. Arkansas’s cross division opponents won 18 SEC games and Bama’s won 16. Mizzou beat Arkansas that year as well. Bama played and beat Florida in December a week after prison raping LSU

Y’all just love to cry about Bama if the deck isn’t entirely and obviously stacked against them. It’s a fascist mindset.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:58 pm to
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Saban is a scared little bitch. He won't win another championship, SEC or orhwrwise.



I dont exactly see Kirby out there preaching that they should be getting Tennessee instead of South Carolina as their third perm opponent.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:00 pm to
No but UGA voted for 9 games and they're actually playing 2 P5 OOC.
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