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re: Mark Richt reacts to instant transfer eligibility proposal
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:50 am to meansonny
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:50 am to meansonny
And how's that different than the reality now? Just because 1 elite safety can't beat out another elite safety doesn't make the losing one any less elite. It just means 1 was better than the other.
Example, just say McKinney and Delpit were both at Bama, McKinney wins the job, does that mean Delpit sucks now? No it means he got beat out. That happens at top recruiting programs yearly. So no change. Big schools already process players. This way the players have some control as well. It's not going to be the mass exodus many are projecting.
Example, just say McKinney and Delpit were both at Bama, McKinney wins the job, does that mean Delpit sucks now? No it means he got beat out. That happens at top recruiting programs yearly. So no change. Big schools already process players. This way the players have some control as well. It's not going to be the mass exodus many are projecting.
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:52 am to chillmonster
An excerpt from an SI Article:
Though most sports under the NCAA umbrella have already been operating under that system, transfers in football, men’s and women’s basketball, baseball and hockey – the five that bring in significant revenue to their schools – have had to sit out for a year unless they received a waiver for hardships or extenuating circumstances.
It seems as if the only Sports that didn't have this Freedom before were the 5 sports that generate the most Revenue, all other Sports have had these Freedoms all along, typical for the NCAA to have a rigged unfair system
I just find it the most amazing thing ever that any sane person could be pro-NCAA and anti-Player
Though most sports under the NCAA umbrella have already been operating under that system, transfers in football, men’s and women’s basketball, baseball and hockey – the five that bring in significant revenue to their schools – have had to sit out for a year unless they received a waiver for hardships or extenuating circumstances.
It seems as if the only Sports that didn't have this Freedom before were the 5 sports that generate the most Revenue, all other Sports have had these Freedoms all along, typical for the NCAA to have a rigged unfair system
I just find it the most amazing thing ever that any sane person could be pro-NCAA and anti-Player
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:55 am to FlexDawg
Is he claiming they developed justin fields?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:56 am to Dawgholio
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Problem was Richt didn’t develop any players
There it is.
All those offensive weapons on the 2008 team just to barely crack the top 30 in team offense.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:06 am to Bubdylan
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The split second the NCAA enforces instant transfer eligibility, I will have watched my last college football game.
Recruiting a player should end after they sign on the line. It's vital to their development that the leverage over their practice habits, their playing time, and their off-the-field behavior swings to the adults in the football program after the players arrive on campus.
This policy is catastrophically naive about how totally player hubris will take over the game. It will be an immediate and total disaster.
See ya later pal, another Fan will be happy to take your "place"
The NCAA is trying to be preemptive and get rid of controversial issues that some perceive to be unfair to the Athletes, they're doing this to create more negotiating leverage to prevent the Players from getting paid
I'm guessing you don't follow the Business of big time college Sports very closely
In an Era of $9Million HCs and guys like Mel Tucker increasing their paycheck from $2.7 to $5.5Million after posting a career record of 5-7, giving Players more Freedom should be the least of your worries
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:17 am to RD Dawg
Outside the Top 85 FB schools, maybe Top100 FB Schools, and the Top150 MBB Schools, very little money is made
Why hold back the Top150 schools just because the Bottom 900 NCAA schools are laggards financially
If a small school can't earn money in the free market then there will be nothing to pay those Athletes that chose a laggard school, but by no means should we hold back the Big Boys that can execute in the free market and generate money
Why hold back the Top150 schools just because the Bottom 900 NCAA schools are laggards financially
If a small school can't earn money in the free market then there will be nothing to pay those Athletes that chose a laggard school, but by no means should we hold back the Big Boys that can execute in the free market and generate money
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:25 am to r2d2
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He makes a valid point.
HIs point is dead on
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:27 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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Richt did what uga is still doing today under Kirby. Had overrated players playing for an overrated coach getting results that coincide with the talent they truly have. Uga is the most overhyped team in cfb and has been for some time. For a program that supposedly recruits at an "elite" level, they sure do get their asses stomped alot in big games against programs that "don't have as much talent as them". It's a joke at this point. It can only be one thing...Georgia simply doesn't haven't the talent that theyre said to have.
Whooo...this bitch mad.....
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:28 am to RD Dawg
The folks that generate the money are the ones that should get paid
Question:
Why aren't there any Head Coaches of a Women's Soccer Team that make the same $9Million that Saban or Dabo makes?
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Their Women's soccer program doesn't generate the money to justify the HC making that kind of money, simply apply the same fiscal decision making to the PLAYERS that the AD applies to the Coaches when the AD decides what coaches get paid
Before you play your "what abt TitleIX" card, why doesn't the women's Basketball Coach at Duke make the exact same amount as Coach K ($8MM per year), why doesn't that trigger some T9 ruckus
Question:
Why aren't there any Head Coaches of a Women's Soccer Team that make the same $9Million that Saban or Dabo makes?
Ans:
Their Women's soccer program doesn't generate the money to justify the HC making that kind of money, simply apply the same fiscal decision making to the PLAYERS that the AD applies to the Coaches when the AD decides what coaches get paid
Before you play your "what abt TitleIX" card, why doesn't the women's Basketball Coach at Duke make the exact same amount as Coach K ($8MM per year), why doesn't that trigger some T9 ruckus
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:34 am to Enos Burdette
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For a program that supposedly recruits at an "elite" level, they sure do get their asses stomped alot in big games against programs that "don't have as much talent as them".
As much as I hate UGA, they rarely get stomped.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:43 am to scrooster
I think we should boycott your azz instantly - douchebags like you will never run a 4.4 forty and cut on a dime like Barry Sanders at Okie State, between giving up azzholes like you vs giving up seeing a once in every 25 yrs type of Talent, I'd boycott idiots like you every time
What an idiot, boycott P5 CFB because you have issues with Players having more Rights
Lemme guess, the reason you watch the games is because the Coaches are great leaders of men and master tacticians
What an idiot, boycott P5 CFB because you have issues with Players having more Rights
Lemme guess, the reason you watch the games is because the Coaches are great leaders of men and master tacticians
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:04 pm to meansonny
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Glad someone else gets it. It helps the smaller programs
Not really.
It actually helps the top 5 national recruiting teams.
Bama already recruits 1 stud safety. They can grab their plan b and say, "in the nfl, you are going to have to beat that man for a job. Come here and show the nfl that you are man enough. If it doesnt work out for 1 of you, then you can be a free agent and no harm/no foul."
Depth charts won't mean as much in recruiting. And the best teams will stack on top even better talent with the casualties taking a free agency stance.
Those big schools already go 2-3 deep with top 50 guys at almost every position. Loosened transfer rules allow the Arkansas and Floridas (lol) of the world to poach the castoff from teams with superior talent.
It also helps CFB become more competitive. For instance, all but one of Florida's 5* players transferred from other schools. Not only do these talented players get a chance to play and develop, but the schools have a chance to make up for lack of elite recruiting.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:09 pm to chillmonster
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Those big schools already go 2-3 deep with top 50 guys at almost every position. Loosened transfer rules allow the Arkansas and Floridas (lol) of the world to poach the castoff from teams with superior talent.
It also helps CFB become more competitive. For instance, all but one of Florida's 5* players transferred from other schools
Agree to disagree.
A bad recruiter doesnt get good because the rules change. A good recruiter has more ammunition to pull in top recruits right on top of one another.
As for the transfer portal and Florida, those transfers may or may not be a talent upgrade. Brenton Cox was a huge liability in run support. So much so that his UGA teammates thought he was loafing. A high energy 3 star can win out when the 5 star cant read a key to stop getting sucked inside on an outside run.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:17 pm to meansonny
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As for the transfer portal and Florida, those transfers may or may not be a talent upgrade. Brenton Cox was a huge liability in run support. So much so that his UGA teammates thought he was loafing. A high energy 3 star can win out when the 5 star cant read a key to stop getting sucked inside on an outside run.
Very few players are can't miss. Only ones in the recent past have been Fields, Hurts, and Kyler.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:39 pm to FlexDawg
I know, I have an idea. You commit to a coach and cannot leave, even if the coach decides to leave for a better opportunity with no penalty at all.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:46 pm to tmjones2
New Rule, Day One:
Bama Back up QB, Fyvestarr Soffmoore, and back up WR, Fasscatch Errthang both transfer to UGA, unhappy with playing time.
Day Two: UGA Starting QB So-so Vetchran Sr transfers to UF, unahappy with prospect of losing starting job to incoming transfer Fyvestarr Soffmoore. Takes two best buds from UGA's O Line with him, because best buds.
Day Three: Starting Ole Miss O Linemen Biefcake Slap and Sloppy McFatt transfer to UGA, sensing better opportunities after UGA lost two transfers, and the Mean Old Fogie Ole Miss line coach made them do 4 push ups for murdering a Lib Arts student last February.
Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. A complete merry-go-round and mastering a sophisticated timing game of getting the last wave of Transfers-In situated with no time left for any more Transfers-Out. Rival schools scheming to sabotage that timing so they are the ones loaded and you are the ones screwed.
I see the sky falling. An absolute circus. Playbooks compromised, petty revenge maneuvers from staffs, petty revenge maneuvers from players, petty revenge maneuvers from parents, every year the natty goes to whoever's starters suffer zero injuries and whichever coaches can rush to the simplest schemes they can teach to hotshot incoming transfers and freshmen.
Zero discipline. Stupendous uptick in misconduct and obnoxious on-the-field behavior.
Coaching and developing players will be minimal. Recruiting, keeping your recruits, stealing their recruits, kissing players' asses, building resentment, and crafting brand new ways to tell filthy lies will be the whole sport.
Bama Back up QB, Fyvestarr Soffmoore, and back up WR, Fasscatch Errthang both transfer to UGA, unhappy with playing time.
Day Two: UGA Starting QB So-so Vetchran Sr transfers to UF, unahappy with prospect of losing starting job to incoming transfer Fyvestarr Soffmoore. Takes two best buds from UGA's O Line with him, because best buds.
Day Three: Starting Ole Miss O Linemen Biefcake Slap and Sloppy McFatt transfer to UGA, sensing better opportunities after UGA lost two transfers, and the Mean Old Fogie Ole Miss line coach made them do 4 push ups for murdering a Lib Arts student last February.
Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. A complete merry-go-round and mastering a sophisticated timing game of getting the last wave of Transfers-In situated with no time left for any more Transfers-Out. Rival schools scheming to sabotage that timing so they are the ones loaded and you are the ones screwed.
I see the sky falling. An absolute circus. Playbooks compromised, petty revenge maneuvers from staffs, petty revenge maneuvers from players, petty revenge maneuvers from parents, every year the natty goes to whoever's starters suffer zero injuries and whichever coaches can rush to the simplest schemes they can teach to hotshot incoming transfers and freshmen.
Zero discipline. Stupendous uptick in misconduct and obnoxious on-the-field behavior.
Coaching and developing players will be minimal. Recruiting, keeping your recruits, stealing their recruits, kissing players' asses, building resentment, and crafting brand new ways to tell filthy lies will be the whole sport.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:59 pm to FlexDawg
Richt is an anti-player authoritarian.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:14 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
frick your wall of text.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:07 am to Bubdylan
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New Rule, Day One:
Bama Back up QB, Fyvestarr Soffmoore, and back up WR, Fasscatch Errthang both transfer to UGA, unhappy with playing time.
Day Two: UGA Starting QB So-so Vetchran Sr transfers to UF, unahappy with prospect of losing starting job to incoming transfer Fyvestarr Soffmoore. Takes two best buds from UGA's O Line with him, because best buds.
Day Three: Starting Ole Miss O Linemen Biefcake Slap and Sloppy McFatt transfer to UGA, sensing better opportunities after UGA lost two transfers, and the Mean Old Fogie Ole Miss line coach made them do 4 push ups for murdering a Lib Arts student last February.
Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. A complete merry-go-round and mastering a sophisticated timing game of getting the last wave of Transfers-In situated with no time left for any more Transfers-Out. Rival schools scheming to sabotage that timing so they are the ones loaded and you are the ones screwed.
I see the sky falling. An absolute circus. Playbooks compromised, petty revenge maneuvers from staffs, petty revenge maneuvers from players, petty revenge maneuvers from parents, every year the natty goes to whoever's starters suffer zero injuries and whichever coaches can rush to the simplest schemes they can teach to hotshot incoming transfers and freshmen.
Zero discipline. Stupendous uptick in misconduct and obnoxious on-the-field behavior.
Coaching and developing players will be minimal. Recruiting, keeping your recruits, stealing their recruits, kissing players' asses, building resentment, and crafting brand new ways to tell filthy lies will be the whole sport
All that angry diatribe you wrote above also applies to Coaches
Not one HC in the SEC bats an eye when they lose a $1.5 Million coordinator to a Division Rival
Since the players have no value and all the value resides in the Coaches and the "name of the school" , guys like you shouldn't be concerned about limited free agency for the Players, therefore no reason for you to fear the sky falling
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:19 am to FlexDawg
hes right, this is an awful idea.
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