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re: LSU's 2026 Class - Not That Great

Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:53 am to
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:53 am to
Oof
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:02 pm to
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Someone else who doesn’t understand how averages work and how having more recruits brings it down.






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It’s cool if you have the opinion that you would trade. You’d just be relinquishing the same number of 5 stars and 8 less 4 stars.


I said I wouldn't trade.

These are no longer the days when you are capped to 25 recruits a year, so the rankings don't mean what they use to. It comes down to overall roster, and when you're at 56 recruits, that means the majority of your team is going to be guys who are there for their first year.

Now, with it being Kiffin's first year also that's not the hugest deal. However, it's no where near the ideal situation and what we know of Kiffin is that he's basically going to do this year after year because he lacks the ability to develop players.

Meanwhile, Alabama and other teams are lower in the rankings because we did not need 56 recruits. We retained all but 1 or 2 of the DeBoer recruits, so we kept the important parts of our roster.

I wouldn't mind us picking up a bunch of lower ranked 3 stars since we can put 105 on scholarships, which would lower our average rankings(not just more players, lower rated players bring it down). But that's only to fill in the positions that were former walk-ons. That's not what LSU is doing.

So yeah, no way in the world would I trade.

Besides, I'm pretty much over overpaid players at this point to be honest. Their production doesn't seem to match what they are making, and that's across college football with only a few exceptions.

Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:16 pm to
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These are no longer the days when you are capped to 25 recruits a year, so the rankings don't mean what they use to. It comes down to overall roster, and when you're at 56 recruits, that means the majority of your team is going to be guys who are there for their first year.

I agree with all of this. However it wasn’t an LSU fan that started this shitty thread talking about the ratings. So get at him and not everyone else for calling out a shitty thread lol. But that’s cool. I wouldn’t trade either so we’re good. You put a lot of words down all based on assumptions with zero facts. It’s hard to have any kind of logical discussion with that non sense.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:38 pm to
Tried. Kelly would never have flown to Knoxville to meet with a player visiting another school to seal the deal.
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:44 pm to
I hope that somewhere in the 55 replies you got that someone pointed out that the source you used penalized Kiffin for players lost to the portal. If you look just at who Kiffin brought in, it’s the best portal class of all time or close. It’s #1 this year. They also have the #1 overall (portal+HS) class when not penalizing for players lost. This is what’s being celebrated.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:46 pm to
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I agree with all of this. However it wasn’t an LSU fan that started this shitty thread talking about the ratings. So get at him and not everyone else for calling out a shitty thread lol. But that’s cool. I wouldn’t trade either so we’re good. You put a lot of words down all based on assumptions with zero facts. It’s hard to have any kind of logical discussion with that non sense lol.


LSU fans have started plenty of them yourselves, so I don't see much difference.

In time people will understand what I'm talking about. The entire ranking models for these things are going to have to change. It's no longer about recruiting, it's about roster.

When I was young, recruiting meant everything because that was going to be your guy for the next 3-5 years. You had to develop him, and then later he would play. Losing a few scholarships was a huge deal because it created a large gap in your roster.

And that's what our current models and the way we look at things are done now as well. But it doesn't really apply anymore because you can recruit an entire team every year if you want.

But where is the development? Does this really mean the way in the future is to bring in your entire team every year? I don't think so. I think your best best is still to get guys out of high school and develop them, assuming you can develop them. Which also requires you to keep them and to find guys looking for development, rather than a paycheck.

At the end of Saban's career we mostly got a bunch of guys who looked more for a paycheck than development. Which is why he retired. We had the top classes and all that shite still, but all anyone cared about was the paycheck, not getting better. And the lack of development showed on the field as well. Just weren't elite anymore.

Just don't really see recruiting and all this stuff the way I use to after the past few years. Especially with what Indiana just did.



Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:51 pm to
I was just coming here to bump this thread.
Posted by Ronb
Member since Feb 2020
636 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:51 pm to
John Somers keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better. LSU now has the number 1 all around class and when Seaton signs it will go higher.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:05 pm to
But do the rankings even mean anything anymore? I mean....Indiana's overall class was ranked 39th by 24/7 last year.

Sure seems like the ability to evaluate specific talent that best fits the system a staff runs is playing a much larger role in success these days than ever before.....
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard...4 Losses.
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
This thread delivers.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9228 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 3:39 pm to
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You have 56 recruits and your average is below 90.

I wouldn't trade.


You got DeBoer.

We got Kiffin.

I wouldn't trade.
Posted by MizzouFG
Member since Oct 2025
6 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 3:50 pm to
Who even puts any kind of importance on these rankings anymore. These rankings are a dying business. I saw this morning where one of these 'expert services' ranked Indiana as having the 18th best roster in the Big10 last August. We all know how that turned out. These recruiting services are flat out scammers these days. Sucking money out of the largest fanbases
Posted by Trumansfangs
Mo
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:00 pm to
So all these pages and still going, and John somers simply pointed out in the op that LSU has no class. Wow.
Posted by EPORE
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65790 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:08 pm to
Texas still close

We land seaton and I'll print the shirts
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
447 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:30 pm to
You should probably be more worried about your own shat show that is the current state of UF football am I right ?
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:46 pm to
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You should probably be more worried about your own


We're only three spots behind LSU going by average recruit ranking. And we didn't have to steal 40 million from hospital foundations to get there.

But don't worry, you finally cracked the top ten

#WINNING

But I am curious how you're going to fit 30 or so scout team rejects onto the SAM TRAM. Somebody call the Fire Marshall!
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 4:51 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68915 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:49 pm to
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We're only three spots behind LSU going by average recruit ranking. And we didn't have to steal 40 million from hospital foundations to get there.


So you're talking shite about LSU while you're behind them?

Wild
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:51 pm to
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 4:54 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68915 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:53 pm to
What is Florida's excuse?
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