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re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 3:23 pm to
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When youre signing 14 million dollar contracts, it matters.



Hey, no argument. If Kiffin, who has said money is not his motivator, actually is motivated to be able to "win less", I have no problem with him staying at OM. We don't want that mentality here. We just got rid of someone that only cared about the money and comfort.

What you fail to see is that I completely understand everything you are saying and it is human nature to think that way, unless you are driven to be great. Then other factors other than comfort enter the equation.

I guess you think Kiffin would be stupid to come here, and that is fine.

I think there is a good chance he bolts, (with my biggest hesitation being timing because of the playoffs), because he wants to be considered great and his comments over the years allude to the fact that he knows he needs more talent to get over the hump.

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Both. I find it hard to believe that you are so easily confused by common sense.

Lane will have the money at OM or LSU to win, he will just have a much longer leash at OM.


No confusion at all.

If he wants to stay at OM because he wants a longer leash, then, as I said he should stay and LSU should look for someone with bigger balls.

That should be pretty common sense.
Tons of posters say he with come here because the pay is the same at OM (who knows the truth on that)

But, you think he’s going to the nfl to take a massive pay cut?
If a coach comes here, wins us a championship and then heads to the NFL, I would be fine with it.

He would have left us in a much better position.

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 2:56 pm to
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I disagree with that.

If he can win at OM, and can get the money he can get here, why would he leave?



Hold up Roger, I responded to your post that said,
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Lane can make as much money at OM, and win less.


So which is it? Win at OM or win Less at OM?

I contend that Lane can not win a natty at OM. He has put together the best rosters that OLE MISS can, and those rosters are rated Top 20-30 every year. He will never have the depth there.

Only once this century has a team with a roster outside the Top 10 won a national championship and that was Michigan at #14.

They will not win this year despite a great job by Lane to get them into the playoffs.

LSU rosters are consistently ranked Top10 and has 3 championships this century because of it and good coaching.

He will not win a championship at OM and if he comes here it will be because he knows it.

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Of course I am. Lane can make as much money at OM, and win less.


Fair enough. If his reason is that, I would want him to stay while we find a coach with bigger balls.

By your own posts, it will take someone with guts to come here since

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The Fans will destroy whoever is hired in record time, regardless of who is hired.


Hope we find the man with the chest to do it.

re: Florida is out

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 2:38 pm to
Man, we have some creative fan fiction writers here.

Salute!

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 2:34 pm to
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You sure are taking this personal.


Ha.

You are very sure of your position and not open to anyone challenging it.

Which, given your overall post history on a range of topics, somewhat surprises me.

None of us knows what Kiffin wants for himself. I can see a multitude of reasons for him to chose each school.

I am surprised you are not open to such conclusions.

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 2:25 pm to
Roger....

Are you going to respond to my question?

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If he does pull the trigger and leave for LSU or UF, why do you think he will have chosen to do so?


A sign of intelligence and emotional stability is the ability to hold two competing thoughts in one's brain.

Let me show you how it is done...

Why would Lane stay at OM?

-He likes it there
-He feels he can accomplish his goals there
-Maybe he has grown complacent and doesn't want change
-He fears a new challenge and getting fired sooner
(I am giving examples and will not argue for them)

Why would Lane leave for LSU or UF?

-Feels he can not just make the playoffs but can win championships because he can build more talented and deeper rosters(this if backed by facts looking at the 247 Sports Talent Composite)
-Looks at the program as a Tier above OM
-Wants to be part of a bigger program, with more fans, bigger stadium, and a bigger brand
-Thinks coming to one of these programs will give himself a better chance to become a coach in the conversation of being one of the bests ever.
-Looking for a new challenge
-More NIL revenue

Again, you have be adamant that he would not come here for reasons listed.

Why would he if you had to argue for it?
Lane will make a decision based on where he wants to coach in hopes of winning a national championship. All of the rest is secondary.

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Winning coaches can win at Ole mIss


Not gonna win a National Championship.

I bet he's just as tired of hearing, "what has he won?" as the rest of us.

You have given all the reasons on why Lane will not come here.

If he does pull the trigger and leave for LSU or UF, why do you think he will have chosen to do so?
Hell, if it's the center at the old Cortana Mall, he was definitely seeing a bad side of town.

Whoever comes to coach at LSU will probably not go north of Government St except to take 110 to the airport. They will see only the better areas of town.

Typical homer putting down something just to make his case.

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 1:47 pm to
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The Fans will destroy whoever is hired in record time, regardless of who is hired.

The LSU fanbase has a reputation and its not incorrect.

The hatred of all coaches on this board is pathetic.


And winning coaches know this and want to be in that fire.

You think Jay Johnson came to LSU thinking, "I am so afraid if I don't win quickly they will fire me."

Loser mentality you have.

Whoever comes here will come knowing they must perform and they will come thankful that they have the chance to reach legendary status by winning a national championship.

re: Lane to da boot

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/19/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Ole Miss has a much higher tolerance for losing.


If any coach declines coming to LSU because of fear of losing, we do not want him near the program.

Champions aren't scared of failure. They only think of winning.

Your entire post on this is how you think about things.

The greats think the exact opposite. They want to be the best and want to be in a location that they feel will allow them to do that.

Lane may decide OM provides him that, but he isn't making any decisions around, "what if I lose 4-5 games? They will fire me."

Absolute nonsense.

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Do you think NIL affects these trends?


Marginally.

The same schools that were winning championships still have big advantages and very good NIL revenue to spend.

Those schools have much deeper rosters with much better overall talent.

Because of the format, some smaller programs will get in the playoff and one has to wonder if those teams really should be there based on who they are playing during the year.

In the end, the teams playing and winning the national championship will almost always be teams with Top 10 Roster talent. Not a team like Kiffin had last year that had 8 or so great players but then a wider spread in talent on the rest of the team, that was ranked as 20th in Roster talent by 247.
Davis said one of the reasons he fired Kiffin was because "Kiffin objected to drafting Jamarcus Russell and other personnel decisions."

Looks like Kiffin was right to object.

But, Kiffin was hoisted to levels he was not ready for when he was younger. There is not doubt about that.

He seems to have learned, grown and changed to a much better Head Coach.
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he has very little interest in coaching again


He had very little interest when he left ND. Woodward did not do enough due diligence to know he was already telling people around him that he was going to coach 2-3 more years.
The number 1 QB for 2027 goes to Dunham, a small private school in BR that Derek Stingley attended. It is not a powerhouse football school by any stretch of the imagination.
This thread is hilarious. Seeing the ignorance of posters regarding Kelly getting paid to not understanding that the $30 million NIL mentioned is revenue share+ NIL (which makes the $30 easily achievable) to thinking anyone knows what the hell Kiffin will do in the end.

Comical.

re: Josh Heupel is ..

Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/18/25 at 8:36 pm to
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What's he won?


Please list the candidates that have won something big that you prefer that are legit options?

2nd, list the great championships that Saban, Miles, and O win before coming to LSU and winning national championships.