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re: LSU will struggle against Texas

Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:25 am to
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:25 am to
quote:

I don't know how the wr talent stacks up over there. I know you've got players but do you have dependable studs coming back this year?


Yes. Receiver corps won't be a big problem.

The big problem will be whether Texas can make a game of it in the trenches and open some holes for a minimal running game. If they do that, they can win. If they don't, then its a bad day for them.

Texas will struggle against LA Tech.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:33 am
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:27 am to
Tigers wear down young Longhorn defense and pull away in q4 to win by 17.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30871 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:41 am to
quote:

LSU will struggle against Texas


Maybe, but I think LSU is the better team.

Texas was very hot and cold last year. Yes, they managed a win against OU, but they also lost to Maryland and Oklahoma State and had one score victories over:
Tulsa
Kansas State
Baylor
Texas Tech
Kansas

I think UGA came into the bowl game very flat, considering they had lost a heartbreaker to Alabama in the SECCG would have given them both a back-to-back SEC titles and also a second trip to the playoffs (likely). Their heart wasn't in playing a consolation game vs Texas, who OTOH were thrilled to be in a game as big as the Sugar Bowl after losing 3 games during the regular season.

Texas has high-caliber athletes, but have rarely used them to their capabilities (if they did, they'd be in the playoffs every other year). I think LSU should beat them, though Texas has enough horses to keep the game fairly close.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55257 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:54 am to
quote:

open some holes for a minimal running game.



Do you think Sam will be required to be the leading rusher again?
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:09 am to
"required"? I don't think it will necessarily be in the game plan but that's the safe bet on what the final stats will say, win or lose.

May change the opinion if they establish interesting in the run game in Game 1.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66445 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:30 am to
Well you’re returning 40% of your defensive production

I still Think you’re a year away.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10475 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:32 am to
quote:

LSU's defense will be preseason favorite for this game. It's such an overused quote, but: how are they going to do: LSU does not know how this defense will operate without D. White and Greedy.

I'm generally a pessimist, but what you wrote is just depressing. Stop. This will be Miami all over again.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21913 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:36 am to
This year is Texas window. There is basically zero chance they beat OU the next few years when Rattler and his cadre of 5* receivers are starting, so it HAS to be this year

The refs will ensure a Texas win down in Austin
Posted by bigbopper
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
972 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:26 am to
You’re such a sad little man.

But I appreciate that you’re already blaming the refs, in typical aggy fashion, for the outcome of a game that hasn’t even been played yet.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21913 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:37 am to
No need to "blame" the refs - it's a well-known, documented fact how the refs favor Texas in the BDF. If you were older than 19, you would know this
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:47 am to
LSU kicks arse on the big scene and makes a statement early. LSU will run all over that UT defense and wear them down by mid-3rd qtr.
Posted by tmjones2
TX
Member since Feb 2013
1511 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:09 am to
quote:

LSU's defense will be preseason favorite for this game. It's such an overused quote, but: how are they going to do: LSU does not know how this defense will operate without D. White and Greedy. I've been proven wrong before. LSU's defense years in and out have proven me wrong before.


What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:33 am to
Texas lost quite a bit. This game will be decently high in the score department I think. Around a 35-31 type of game.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4698 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:36 am to
phil steele, lindy's and athlon GREATLY disagree with you.

in SEC rankings only. phil steele and lindy's both have LSU's "D" graded higher than uga's at all three position groups. athlon has LSU tops in two of three. the only one for uga was LB and LSU was listed one spot below.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4698 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:26 pm to
LSU should win because they are the more complete, experienced and deeper team. Beside the 16 to 8 advantage LSU has in returning starters, they also return double digit more lettermen. More lettermen on "O", "D" and "ST".

Both LSU and UT will always have athletes on "O" at RB and WR. Both teams return similar numbers there. Horns rushing and passing attack was mid conference in an offensive dominated Big XII. LSU's numbers weren't that much different in a defensive dominated SEC.


Give the offenses a wash compared to the other. The BIG DIFFERENCE between the two teams comes on "D" and it's not close.


LSU's front 7 will be one of the BEST in the country.


Tigers return 30+ starts along the Dline Horns return five. Horns backups return some experience but still not as much as LSU. Backups for UT - 12 tkls in 23 games played. LSU's backups - 10 starts - 69 tkls and 5.5 sacks.


LB numbers are even worse. Tigers return 7 LBs with starting experience. Texas no so much.


As for the secondary horns have a great pair of starting safties. LSU - DBU.


LSU will win because they have a better than avg "O" and a DOMINATING "D".


Did I make a valid point for the tigers?



Posted by bigbopper
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
972 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:02 pm to
You make good points. However, the lack of Texas returning “starters” on defense is a bit misleading. The only real fall off should be from LBer- almost all our front 7 have logged significant snaps and some believe that many of the projected starters are upgrades from last year, particularly on the line. Our secondary is going to be a big strength and is very deep. We are in another year of Todd Orlando’s defense and you can bet he will have a game plan for Coach O though the fact this game is so early in the season is a bit of a concern. I will grant that LSU looks to field a much more experienced defense in september. If I’m Ensminger I am trying to target the Texas linebackers and force them to make decisions in space.

On offense, I don’t think it’s exactly a “wash.” Sam, when he is on, is very tough to gameplan against. He is kind of a mini Tebow in that he can move the pile and isn’t afraid to lower his head. His ability to improvise and move the pocket creates a lot of opportunities. He also has some freakish athletes at WR. I believe y’all are starting a freshman at CB. Even if he is a five star recruit, it’s gonna be a challenge preventing our athletes from getting 5-7 yards on quick dump passes/ screens, particularly if the box is loaded to contain Sam/ our running game.
So I give us the edge of offense.

The more that I look at it, the more I think that it’s gonna be pretty close.
Home field is helpful but that Tiger defense is no joke.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

LSU should win because they are the more complete, experienced and deeper team. Beside the 16 to 8 advantage LSU has in returning starters, they also return double digit more lettermen. More lettermen on "O", "D" and "ST".


LSU has no game experience with the new offense and the OL was not recruited/built for the spread. The OL may never transition effectively.. it's a concern the team will have command of the new scheme by game 4.

A team certainly includes it's leader. I like Orgeron, he's a character. I'm not sure Orgeron is a difference maker as a head coach tho and that permeates throughout the entire program.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:36 pm to
I don’t see how LSU’s defense would have difficulty stopping the horns offense. The QB run won’t work as well against LSU’s LBs.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55257 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:37 pm to
Let’s be honest though

At this point in time

Ogeron > Herman as a head coach
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I don’t see how LSU’s defense would have difficulty stopping the horns offense. The QB run won’t work as well against LSU’s LBs.




I know they call it a "play book", but it actually has "plays" in it... ya know plural.. as in more than one.

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