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re: LSU qb basically disses on Louisiana and the South

Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:41 am to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:41 am to
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well, I have lived in the South my entire life, and I don't try to insulate myself from what you and the qb might consider inferior neighborhoods and people.

Perhaps you live in a bubble inside some gated and guarded community where you never have deal with those kind of people.


So you wrote OP and then you wrote this. That is some serious cognitive dissonance.

For a lot of college football and basketball players, their skill in their sport is their way to afford an education they wouldn't be able to get otherwise, and for a small number of those, their skill in their sport is a path to life-changing money, and if they're careful and disciplined, generational wealth that most Americans will only dream of.

How the frick do you not know this?
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:42 am to
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You don't think that with an education they can do better for themselves, even if They might've not come from anything ?


Why do people pretend that intelligence is a skill to be gained?

The harsh reality is a lot of these guys simply wouldn’t have any shot without athletic ability. Many don’t have fathers in the picture to teach them modern blue collar skills. They either aren’t intelligent enough to get into college via academics, or they cannot afford it.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 7:45 am
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11024 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:42 am to
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They might've not come from anything ?


Are you just ignoring the might’ve part? He’s not saying this is what it’s like for all the players, but for some yes and many others around the country this is the way it is, we’re you just born yesterday or something? Man some of the Bama posts wreak of fear.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 7:47 am
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7142 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:44 am to
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You don't think that with an education they can do better for themselves, even if They might've not come from anything ?


Why do people pretend that intelligence is a skill to be gained?


so you think most southern born and bred college football players aren't intelligent enough to become educated?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:48 am to
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education


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intelligence


Not the same thing.

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intelligence is a skill to be gained?


It can certainly be tuned, and your critical thinking and logical processing can be improved.

A man of average intelligence will never be able to crack an atom, but he can maximize his own brainpower, and you can do that in a university as long as you stay away from the identity politics disciplines like gender studies, CRT, sociology, etc.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7142 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:49 am to
so at least to some degree you and I agree about this
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:50 am to
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so you think most southern born and bred college football players aren't intelligent enough to become educated?


I was a volunteer tutor at impoverished schools in west Alabama for 3 years at UA.

Most of that group, football player or not, had no business going to college. The best hope for the males was trade school, but even that wasn’t in their wheelhouse because many had absentee fathers and many couldn’t read.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14157 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:53 am to
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Those guys care about football. They might've not come from anything. This is their only life, their only way out to get to where they want to be."


Are you mentally challenged? Do you think that some of the players that grew up in projects and low income housing aren’t aware of it? I mean there’s trolling , and then there is just plain stupidity!
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7142 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:53 am to
you didn't answer the question. Just trying to spin away from it.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7142 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:55 am to
They might've not come from anything.

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Do you think that some of the players that grew up in projects and low income housing aren’t aware of it?


I know poor people, black and white alike. My wife and I were poor when we were young. We never had the attitude we didn't come from anything. I thought I came from a pretty good family.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10974 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:56 am to
Seems like a bit of an interpretation stretch.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15965 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:56 am to
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is that a spin to say the players are too stupid to be educated once they do get to college?


For LSU: 12,000 a year to attend, plus living expenses adds around 10,000. So 22,000 a year to attend with a 25% dropout rate by year 3. They get to avoid the expense for the most part, and get an advantage in the educational side that the average student doesn’t.

So no, it’s not a spin that football players are stupid. It’s a statement that football scholarships at a D1 school provide benefits the “student athletes” otherwise never see. And that before you add in the connections they can make and bit of fame they can trade on. Knoxville and the surrounding area is full of businesses that exist and survive because of ties to the football program. That football scholarship is the best fraternity for success out there for an ambitious young man.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:57 am to
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A man of average intelligence will never be able to crack an atom, but he can maximize his own brainpower


Go volunteer at an impoverished, largely minority school in your area and come back to me with what percentage of those students you’d say have average intelligence.

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you can do that in a university


Not if you’re a teenager who can barely read or do basic arithmetic. You’re too far behind.

I can exercise to get in better shape, but I was never going to be a D1 athlete. I simply didn’t have the talent. People can study to get more educated, but some simply aren’t genetically intelligent enough to be a college student.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5107 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:57 am to
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those kind of people


Holy shite you may want to take a time out.

May the down votes continue to rain upon you.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5107 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:57 am to
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those kind of people


Holy shite you may want to take a time out.

May the down votes continue to rain upon you.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7142 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:58 am to
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Seems like a bit of an interpretation stretch.



it's like me saying you come from The Great Unwashed Methland, because that's the sterotype of you okie dirt burglars.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50769 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:59 am to

Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14157 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:01 am to
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My wife and I were poor when we were young. We never had the attitude we didn't come from anything. I thought I came from a pretty good family.


So now you are telling me that you grew up in the same poverty stricken areas that a large part of athletes grew up in? It has nothing to do with being from a good family. I’m sure that the players also believe that they are from good families. Most of them see sports as their ticket to a better life. They are also getting an education because of their athletic ability.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15965 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:02 am to
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I know poor people, black and white alike. My wife and I were poor when we were young. We never had the attitude we didn't come from anything. I thought I came from a pretty good family.


Middle and lower middle class are not poor in America. Having parents(plural) pretty much means are are not poor anymore in America.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4657 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:02 am to
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OP reaching? Not at all.


OP reaching? Absolutely.
FIFY

It's a reach all the way around. Jayden is admitting he didn't have a clue about players from the south. He isn't specifically dissing Louisiana like op inferred.
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