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Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:08 am to DesertAg
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:08 am to DesertAg
I kind of look at O this way:
No, he's not going to knock Saban off the throne. I don't think anyone in the SEC will be doing that. I think Ed's age means that he can be coach about as long as Saban will be there, and I frankly would be fine if he could continue to just keep LSU in the mix during that stretch.
No, he's not going to knock Saban off the throne. I don't think anyone in the SEC will be doing that. I think Ed's age means that he can be coach about as long as Saban will be there, and I frankly would be fine if he could continue to just keep LSU in the mix during that stretch.
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:11 am to DesertAg
The problem with your friends is they need to know more about Ole Joe. Joe Alleva didn't have Ed on the hot seat last year. Joe Alleva wasn't going to can him had he shat the bed last year. AND JOE ALLEVA wouldn't know a splash hire to save his damn job.
But we have fans that will embrace a 1,2 or 3 year run of shite just to sit back and enjoy Ed's failure. For me, I hope he kicks them all in the sac.
But we have fans that will embrace a 1,2 or 3 year run of shite just to sit back and enjoy Ed's failure. For me, I hope he kicks them all in the sac.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:18 am to namvet6566
There always that one guy who can't have a legit conservation.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:22 am to FightinTiga
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With what LSU returns he will be expected to improve upon last season
Hard to argue with that. But I don't think O would get fired with another 10-win season in '19. E would be on the hot seat tho, IMO
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:44 am to DesertAg
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:14 am to DesertAg
Honest answer: he has turned better than expected and I am less concerned about him tanking the program to Curley Hallman levels. He is recruiting well and keeping things moving forward.
Is he a coach to take LSU to its full potential? Still have some doubts but hope he proves me wrong.
Is he a coach to take LSU to its full potential? Still have some doubts but hope he proves me wrong.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:25 am to DesertAg
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Last year Ed O was on the preseason hotseat.
The media said he was on the "preseason hotseat". It seems I remember posters on here say that he would not be fired last season. Stop getting brainwashed by the media.
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He seems like a career position coach who is really good motivating his kids. Do you see him as “the guy” who’s going to beat Bama?
can you think of another coach that you could of said this about 4-6 years ago?
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Do you see him as an asset/liability for your program going forward? Not for 2019 but for the next 5-10 years.
I hope so, but in 5 years we will know.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:37 am to DesertAg
Not completely sold on O. But he has a good recruiting class lined up. He needs to address the offense, or he will end up like Les Miles. We got lucky landing Burrow, but we need someone who can not only recruit a QB, but can coach one as well.
He coaches too scared in close games. I hope this changes.
One major step forward with O is the issue with players leaving early. Yeah we lost Greedy Williams and Devin White but that was expected, I think we lost one other player early but that was it. Everyone else stayed. That is a huge step for this program. Almost every junior left early under Miles, regardless of what their draft stock was, hell we had players leave who ended up not getting drafted. I give O all the credit in the world for convincing most of our underclassmen to stay.
He coaches too scared in close games. I hope this changes.
One major step forward with O is the issue with players leaving early. Yeah we lost Greedy Williams and Devin White but that was expected, I think we lost one other player early but that was it. Everyone else stayed. That is a huge step for this program. Almost every junior left early under Miles, regardless of what their draft stock was, hell we had players leave who ended up not getting drafted. I give O all the credit in the world for convincing most of our underclassmen to stay.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:52 am to DesertAg
He needs to knock it out park this year.
Big team returning, lots talent and experience.
He doesn’t have to beat Alabama.
Just can’t lose to fla and eatme.
People that hate him will always hate him.
Still mad and on rag they didn’t get the guy the wanted from start. Miserable bunch of kids... they just can’t won’t let it go.
Big team returning, lots talent and experience.
He doesn’t have to beat Alabama.
Just can’t lose to fla and eatme.
People that hate him will always hate him.
Still mad and on rag they didn’t get the guy the wanted from start. Miserable bunch of kids... they just can’t won’t let it go.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:56 am to DesertAg
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why didn’t Matt Canada work? He’s been successful everywhere else... What went wrong with him?
He's coached 5 different places in the last 6 years. Maybe he's just a dick.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:07 am to DesertAg
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Last year Ed O was on the preseason hotseat.
Disagree with this... sure, most of the prognosticators had him coming in at the lower end of the SEC West but that is not the hot seat...
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Do you see him as an asset/liability for your program going forward?
I despise Alleva and really did not like the Coach O hire. However, I am an LSU guy and I never wish my team to lose so I have always pulled for him to succeed. My attitude has always been you never really know what direction the program is headed until the end of the 3rd year of a coach's tenure so technically the jury is still out for me. Having said that... So far I like what I see...
Time will tell...
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:19 am to DesertAg
Coach O isn't on the hot seat and won't be after this year or the years to come. However the offense needs to take a major step forward this year or he will have to fire is buddy Ensminger, who realistically should have never been hired as OC in the first place.
LSU was sold Coach O under the idea that he would lockdown the state recruiting wise and hire the best assistant coaches and let them handle all the X's and O's. For the most part that has happened. The only remaining big issue is the offense. In no way, shape, or form is Ensminger a top OC in the country. So in that aspect he has failed.
This is a no excuses year. 10 wins is the absolute floor.
LSU was sold Coach O under the idea that he would lockdown the state recruiting wise and hire the best assistant coaches and let them handle all the X's and O's. For the most part that has happened. The only remaining big issue is the offense. In no way, shape, or form is Ensminger a top OC in the country. So in that aspect he has failed.
This is a no excuses year. 10 wins is the absolute floor.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:40 am to DesertAg
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Do you see him as an asset/liability for your program going forward? Not for 2019 but for the next 5-10 years.
Neither. He won't bring us to the CFP but he also won't go 6-6. Somewhere around 9-3 / 10-2 yearly
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He seems like a career position coach who is really good motivating his kids.
Yeah, he basically sold himself as a guy who can motivate/recruit and bring in the best coordinators to run the offense/defense
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Do you see him as “the guy” who’s going to beat Bama?
This is just a silly question. We play 12 games a season, it is not all predicated on Alabama. The reality is, they are in the middle of a dynasty, with perhaps the GOAT coach, so until Saban falls of the Earth or retires, that will always be a tough game.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:50 am to Box Geauxrilla
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I think he may be a face of the program and a recruiter, while his assistants run the show. I’m okay with that.
That would be nice if he would actually hire a real OC.
But, I said it when Orgeron was hired, this strategy of hiring the best and brightest coordinators is not a feasible long term strategy. If you are dolling out money for the top coordinators, there's a good chance they will move on to other positions whether it be to the NFL or as a HC. That means you're hiring a new coordinator on one side of the ball every 1-2 years. That's not feasible long term.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 10:09 am to UpToPar
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That means you're hiring a new coordinator on one side of the ball every 1-2 years. That's not feasible long term
I have to disagree with this point. Bama goes through coordinators like crap through a goose.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 10:19 am to DesertAg
He over achieved last year for sure and surprised a lot of us. If he’d make significant changes on offense I’d feel better about our future but he’s basically doing what Les did and hitching his wagon to an OC that no one really wants. No excuses for a crappy offense next year, lots of talent and returning experience.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:44 am to Chimlim
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Almost every junior left early under Miles, regardless of what their draft stock was, hell we had players leave who ended up not getting drafted. I give O all the credit in the world for convincing most of our underclassmen to stay.
I really don't believe a coach can convince a player to stay. They stay for a number of their own reasons. And one of those reasons is respect for their HC.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:27 pm to DesertAg
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Some of my buds wish he had shat the bed, gotten canned, and made room for a splash hire
If they hoped LSU would lose, they’re not true LSU fans. Also, I’d love to hear a few candidates for said “splash hire”
Everyone acts like great coaches capable of leading a major program are growing on trees.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:46 pm to DesertAg
I expect 10+ wins in the regular season in 2019. Anything worse and I will be disappointed.
Obviously, O has earned support from LSU fans with a solid 2018 season, but it’s time to take the next step.
LSU has everything in place to legitimately compete for the SEC title and/or playoff appearance this coming season.
I hated the hire, but O has done a good job stabilizing the program and - for the time being - reversing the gradual decline of it that we were seeing under Miles.
Obviously, O has earned support from LSU fans with a solid 2018 season, but it’s time to take the next step.
LSU has everything in place to legitimately compete for the SEC title and/or playoff appearance this coming season.
I hated the hire, but O has done a good job stabilizing the program and - for the time being - reversing the gradual decline of it that we were seeing under Miles.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:58 pm to DesertAg
Honestly, didn't read. Just downvoted for thread title.
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