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re: LSU coaches since 1991 expansion

Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:55 am to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41890 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:55 am to
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Coaching isn’t the problem at LSU. The fans with unrealistic expectations wanting LSU to be like Bama and Saban are the problem. Temper your expectations. You are not a Bama level program and never have been


And that's why you'll always be losers
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27227 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:58 am to
quote:

It almost seems like it was intentionally stupid.


Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:18 am to
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Nick Saban
2000 8-4
2001 10-3 SEC Champs
2002 8-5
2003 13-1 SEC and National Champs
2004 9-3


That would get Nick fired now if he had another down year in 2005.
Posted by Trojan1998
Member since Oct 2004
1237 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:24 am to
LSU, in the early ‘90s, was some of the worst football ever played in SEC history.
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:37 am to
While there’s no historical reason to see LSU as an elite level program, the last 3 coaches all won a natty. That counts for something.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41890 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:48 am to
Past 20 years, LSU absolutely has a claim.

In all honesty, that's what matters today.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17230 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:53 am to
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His tenure is on par with Sabans tenure at LSU.


What was the state of the program when Saban got the job and when O got the job? How was the state of the program when Saban left compared to O's departure?

This is Ed Orgeron's 8th year being full time head coach (interims not withstanding) and of those 8 years 2019 was the significant outlier and 2018 was pretty good too. He had Burrow both those years with Aranda and Ensminger backing him up. He's responsible for the first non-winning season at LSU since Dinardo
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:54 am
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5515 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:56 am to
You don't get it cause you are not in it everyday like we are. The bolts were rattling and the wheels were coming off. No one here excepts LSU to be Bama. What we do expect is at a minimum 9-3 a year, and it was clear the path we were on that was not attainable.
Posted by LSUTigersLJM
New Orleans
Member since May 2021
1118 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:56 am to
Another post from a guy who doesn't want LSU to have a good head coach.

I get it, LSU having a James Franklin or a Luke Fickell is terrible for Arkansas. It would cause your complete irrelevancy to get even worse.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54081 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:58 am to
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emper your expectations. You are not a Bama level program and never have been


No one in the country is an Alabama level program, but no shame at all in doing everything you can to try and get there.

Teams like Arkansas are the ones with this mentality
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54081 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:00 pm to
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And they're so proud of their high expectations



why would you not want to have high expectations?

Whats the point of playing if you dont want to win it all?
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54081 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:02 pm to
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Nothing suggests y’all can have that. Even Saban couldn’t sustain it



But you try, every year.

You are essentially saying with this post "oh well we cant really win", maybe thats why Arkansas is kind of shitty, this attitude infests your program
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54081 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:02 pm to
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I love when fans that have never seen their team win a national championship give advice to those who have.

One of the best things the SEC Rant has to offer.



Its the best
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24976 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:05 pm to
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why would you not want to have high expectations? Whats the point of playing if you dont want to win it all?


Exactly. You don’t get better by benchmarking a loser program. You benchmark against the best.

More than any other program not named Bama, LSU has proven since 2001 that we can and should aim for national titles, and nothing less.
Posted by Tua_2_Smitty
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jan 2018
230 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:06 pm to
For as much grief as I give LSU, Arkie and or Aggie fans giving them any advice on how to build a program is beyond laughable.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155521 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:20 pm to
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The fans with unrealistic expectations wanting LSU to be like Bama and Saban are the problem. Temper your expectations. You are not a Bama level program and never have been


It’s not about bama, it’s about trying to be elite and staying at the top

Figures a fan of shitty arse Arkansas can’t grasp that
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8812 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:24 pm to
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Nothing suggests y’all can have that. Even Saban couldn’t sustain it


Saban left, he would have absolutely went on a run. Hell he arguably wouldn't have done so well at Bama without the inroads he made in LSU's recruiting area. As LSU currently is second in NC's this century, nothing suggests that we can't sustain quality teams.
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:29 pm to
Now do Arkansas
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29057 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:44 pm to
Special Ed is the best coach in lsu history.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21212 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:52 pm to
Jack Crowe
1992 0-1 fired after first game.
Joe Kines interim 3-6-1.

Danny Ford
1993 6-4-1
1994 4-7
1995 8-5 SEC West champs.
1996 4-7
1997 4-7


Houston Nutt
1998 9-3
1999 8-4
2000 6-6
2001 7-5
2002 9-5
2003 9-4
2004 5-6
2005 4-7
2006 10-4
2007 8-5

Bobby Petrino
2008 5-7
2009 8-5
2010 10-3
2011 11-2

John L. Smith interim
2012 4-8

Bert Bielema
2013 3-9
2014 6-6
2015 8-5
2016 7-6
2017 4-8

Chad Morris
2018 2-10
2019 2-10

Sam Pittman
2020 3-7
2021 4-3 currently
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