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re: Louisiana, Alabama and Georgia players

Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:18 am to
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:18 am to
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Texas high school football was way ahead of the curve in throwing the football vs other states in the 90s and into the 2000s. Art Briles at Stephenville HS was one of the pioneers of this in the early 90s when he switched from a wishbone offense (what most high schools were running) to a spread offense. He started absolutely blasting teams and won 4 state championships. One year he had over 8,600 yards of total offense.

This caught on throughout the state and had a ripple effect. The state of Texas starting producing a lot of polished QBs out of high school.

There have been points in time from the early 2000s to present day where 1/4 to 1/3 of all starting NFL QBs played high school ball in Texas.

I think certain regions are better at certain things.
Texas: QB
Cali: Skill positions
Florida: Speed
Deep South: Big nasty athletic front 7 + Louisiana WR
Midwest/Rust Belt: OL
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 8:20 am
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
4016 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:19 am to
Arguably the best quarterback, running back, and wide receiver in NFL history all came from the GREAT state of Mississippi.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4252 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:22 am to
Reb,

These guys seem to forget that the “Landmass” produces a lot of football talent.

In fact I would put an all time star team from Mississippi against any other State in the Union and would take them for the victory every time.

Thank you for sharing.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
1793 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:28 am to
People don’t seem to like it when you ask questions (even with no agenda whatsoever) that require them to have to think. They seem to just become angry and confused. I think it’s a legit discussion topic and way better than all of the re-alignment threads that are just beating a dead horse.
Posted by Thedirkdiggler13
Very near
Member since Sep 2017
225 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:37 am to
New Orleans and the river parishes produce a ton of D1 talent. If the inner city schools of NOLA could have better programs they would produce more. Most of them have tons of talent but very undisciplined and because of that the get hammered by disciplined but less talented teams. The loosing causes a lot of kids to quit and take to street life instead. Miami is sort of the same but they have figured out how to have good programs and keep kids playing. Kinda off the subject some but just another example of what a shite hole NOLA is.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
1793 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:40 am to
On a much smaller scale. We have this issue with Little Rock. That and some of the most talented kids go basketball if they can.
Posted by Sooners2050
Member since Jul 2022
29 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:15 am to
I’m from Dallas and a lot of the players here are built to play in the BIG 12, but some of them can play in the SEC if they from Desoto or Duncanville, Allen, Denton Ryan and the rest of the big 6A schools that produce some good players, Houston on the other hand got guys that can play in the SEC, but the 7 on 7 is wack when I watch BIG 12 games I see some elements of 7 on 7 because the high school coaches be doing that, and OCs from the BIG 12 will copy that pick up a play and run it, if a wide receiver from Texas is playing against a DB that’s going to play in the BIG 12 that receiver is gonna dominate that corner when that same receiver plays in the SEC against corners from Florida or Louisiana those DBs are not going to back down from a challenge. Once Texas is in the SEC, high school coaches will try to adapt to the brand of football the SEC plays. We can produce o lineman but there not as big as the ones you see in the SEC A&M has had good o lines since they joined, Texas has had crappy o lines until their recruiting, with D linemen there’s been some good ones that came out of the state but they’re not as big and fast like the ones in Florida, Louisiana or Georgia unless there’s a Myles Garrett type player that blows up then we have to wait for the next recruiting cycle to get that type of player.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19211 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:17 am to
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I think so much 7on7 in Texas, they don't develop offensive and defensive linemen as well


This. But the LB play has suffered as well.

You win championships with the big butts on the line. Period.
Posted by Sooners2050
Member since Jul 2022
29 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:36 am to
Even the LBs are undersized
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:48 am to
He said:
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louisiana is putting

Your link says:
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Since 1936

Not exactly the same thing.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21261 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 10:48 am to
Same problem with the little Rock metro schools. But now slowly it is beginning to put out some better players.
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 11:52 am to
nothing sets them apart from Texas talent your fooling yourselves if you think thats the case. Texas produces alot of NFL players.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25878 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 12:35 pm to
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This is what I was asking. I wasn’t trolling, I just wondered why these kids from these states seemed more capable of of doing well on this level.

My theory is that kids growing up in areas with more built-out media coverage of HS football (Texas, the Midwest, even Atlanta) are more likely to get a lot of coverage, leading to a higher ranking. This, in turn, leads to more of them being “overrated,” through no real fault of their own.

Anecdotally, a 4* from South GA has seemed to me to be less likely to bust than a 4* from Atlanta.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by RichardCranium
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
Member since Aug 2005
2437 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 1:48 pm to
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From a national championship to a 6-7 and fired coach in 2021. A step back is the correct term . A jump back might be a better term.


Well as a fan of a team with 1 National Championship in any sport ever, you are certainly qualified to judge what a step back means.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19360 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:38 pm to
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Even the LBs are undersized


We have Bumper Poole and now Drew Sanders who are plenty big and are SEC caliber players plus Jalon Catalon who is one of the best safeties in the country who are all from texas.

There are fine players from that state.

I guess the question is why the texas schools who load up on instate talent can’t have the results of these SEC schools. Looks like someone down there should dominate.
Posted by Sooners2050
Member since Jul 2022
29 posts
Posted on 7/11/22 at 5:56 pm to
My old high school played against both poole and sanders both of their teams got talented players that get recruited by SEC, BIG 10 and Little 12 schools. But yeah there some players that can play in the SEC because a lot of coaches and recruits be looking for guys with size, speed and strength and you got the ones that don’t got the size, they got some speed and strength get recruited by little 12 schools that’s what the little 12 is. The only Texas school that looks promising is Baylor they loaded on talent with briles until the scandal and all that talent left for other schools and with Aranda there they’re getting that talent back.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 6:10 pm
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