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re: Louisiana, Alabama and Georgia players

Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
1874 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:31 pm to
Louisiana does produce great skill positions including QBs. Seems like I recall reading on a per capita basis louisiana is putting the most in the nfl.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Looking forward to seeing what TAM does this year with all those stars.


I would think 2023 or 2024 would give a better idea. They'll still be developing size, strength and technique this coming season.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:34 pm to
Number of 2022 NFL Draft Picks by state where they played high school ball:
Texas (32)
Georgia (30)
California (22)
Florida (21)
Ohio (13)
Alabama (12)
Louisiana (10)
Maryland (10)
North Carolina (10)

Nick Saban has recruited the shite out of California, Texas, Louisiana and Florida. I think one year his national championship team had a defensive backfield entirely from Florida. Not sure what you mean.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
1874 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:45 pm to
Didn’t check all of the states but teas has a population of 29.5 mil, louisiana 4.5 mil. So if the numbers in the nfl above are accurate texas is roughly 6 times the population of louisiana but only puts roughly 3 times more in the nfl. Don’t know about the other states but louisiana puts far more in nfl per capita than texas.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:21 pm to
The best high school football players in the country come from south Florida and it isn’t all that close. Those kids are getting coached hard from 5 years old. Actually hard. No travel ball bullshite.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7143 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Seems like I recall reading on a per capita basis louisiana is putting the most in the nfl.





The state of Mississippi has placed the most players in the NFL capita, according to Sidelines.

LINK

Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
872 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Number of 2022 NFL Draft Picks by state where they played high school ball:
Texas (32)
Georgia (30)
California (22)
Florida (21)
Ohio (13)
Alabama (12)
Louisiana (10)
Maryland (10)
North Carolina (10)


State of Georgia seriously outpacing everyone there on a per capita basis. Wow.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52611 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:54 pm to
For the Texas comments, in my opinion, many Texas kids receive better coaching and have access to more resources at the high school level because Texas HS football is so huge.

Thus, a lot of Texas kids peak in high school and are perceived as busts at the next level because they don't take the next step.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19352 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:09 pm to
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some of em get their panties in a wad over about anything.


Amen, we have an opportunity here to discuss things with fans from all over the country and trolling and insults are the result. It’s a shame.
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
1874 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:31 pm to
LSU is blessed to be in such a rich recruiting State without any other competitive in state schools successfully recruiting against them.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:04 pm to
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The state of Mississippi has placed the most players in the NFL capita, according to Sidelines


"Per Capita" is a completely meaningless statistic
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:43 pm to
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so two seasons, a fired coach, and it’s a step back…

From a national championship to a 6-7 and fired coach in 2021. A step back is the correct term . A jump back might be a better term.
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:54 pm to
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Thus, a lot of Texas kids peak in high school and are perceived as busts at the next level because they don't take the next step.

or they don't like being smacked in the face by players of equal physical ability and more drive
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 8:01 pm to
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"Per Capita" is a completely meaningless statistic



Not really. You can't actually believe that Mississippi at just under 3 million population can put the same number of kids in the NFL as Texas with a population at 28.6 million. It'a very meaningful statistic to level the playing field when two sample sizes are very different as in this case. I hope your job doesn't require statistics or critical thinking.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 8:19 pm to
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It'a very meaningful statistic to level the playing field


Leveling the "playing field?" In regards to what? Message board argument s? It's meaningless and if you really want a legitimate deep dive in to numbers "per participant" is a much more valid number but still rather meaningless.

California produced 2 of the best players in the SEC last year (Bowers and Young) and their "per Capita" numbers are abysmal but if you had a choice between recruiting California or Mississippi you'll choose California 10
outta 10 times.
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 10:18 pm to
We’re just better people here in Georgia.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 10:45 pm to
Still play defense at the hs level....
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4291 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:39 am to
quote:

It seems these states produce great talent, but what sets them apart from the northern talent or even texas talent. Is it the systems they play in or a tougher mindset?


Its called Black people. Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia are all over 34% black.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 6:14 am to
quote:

Number of 2022 NFL Draft Picks by state where they played high school ball:
Texas (32)
Georgia (30)
California (22)
Florida (21)
Ohio (13)
Alabama (12)
Louisiana (10)
Maryland (10)
North Carolina (10)

Nick Saban has recruited the shite out of California, Texas, Louisiana and Florida. I think one year his national championship team had a defensive backfield entirely from Florida. Not sure what you mean.


The OP is talking about coming out of high school though....not college. Once in college kids can toughen up, put on weight, polish technique and do all kinds of things to get to the NFL.

I don't think he is saying Texas kids don't have talent so much as they come out of high school lacking some aspects.
Again....I don't know how true it is but I have heard similar things. I'm sure there have been some absolutely great players that came out of Texas high schools, too. It boils down to an opinion by somebody and would be very difficult to prove or say definitively.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 6:16 am to
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Texas (32)
Georgia (30)
California (22)
Florida (21)
Ohio (13)


I should also say that this surprises me somewhat as the rankign of talent usually goes something like:

California
Texas
Florida (Florida and Texas are almost even, I think)
Georgia
Ohio (Ohio has been slipping for some time, though)
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