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re: Looks like we are moving forward with a 7+1 schedule after next year
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:37 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:37 pm to WG_Dawg
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2031 = UGA plays OU while they are in the SEC
Yes, and both UGA and AU are in the SEC.
How can they nix one and not have the power to nix the other?
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:44 pm to New Money
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Yes, and both UGA and AU are in the SEC.
How can they nix one and not have the power to nix the other?
Because UGA and AU don't have a 2-game contract to play where one of the games was as OOC opponents and the other game was as conference opponents.
You're making this more compliaced than it should be. Think about our opener with oregaon last year, but pretend it was in autzen instead of the benz. Now pretend that starting next year they were in hte SEC and we were going to be palying them yearly. UGA has now essentially gone out there for a one-off noncon came that we won't ever get back since our future matchups are now as league members. That's the exact same thing that would've happened iwht the OU series.
Us and AU deciding among ourselves to play yearly doens't affect the SEC in any way. Each team would just be ditching one of the cupcake tomato cans and playing each other instead.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:47 pm to gamecockman12
We are the only conference who could manage to bring Texas and Texas A&M back together, only to have them not play annually. Colossally stupid and a waste of the massive resources we have
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:55 pm to Bama Bird
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We are the only conference who could manage to bring Texas and Texas A&M back together, only to have them not play annually. Colossally stupid and a waste of the massive resources we have
But just think, now Oklahoma/vandy and Texas/South Carolina get to play more frequently! Everybody is happy now!!
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:57 pm to GTnerd
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Surely DSOR will continue as an out of conf game if the SEC is truly this stupid, Uga and Au can keep it going if they truly want to
Yep, same thing I said for the Third Saturday in October. Yea 7+1 sucks, but we didnt choose it and it is looking like the reality of the situation. So the only way to protect the traditions and rivalries is to play the games as a non-conference game anyways.
The concept must break a lot of peoples brains for some reason with all of the downvotes
but it is literally the only option. Or else people are just full of shite and don’t actually care about DSOR and TSIO. Personally, if Bama is playing Tennessee in October, whether it counts as a conference game or not, it’s a big deal and I will be tuned in.Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:00 pm to TideSaint
The real question becomes "Will we have 8 conference games or 9?"
With 8 conference games, the 1-7 model is the only one that makes sense IF playing every team, home and home, in 4 years is the goal.
With 9 conference games, the 3-6 model is the most logical and still accomplishes the "every team, home and home, every 4 years". The downside to the 9-game schedule is half the league has 4 home games while the other half has 5, rotating yearly.
With 8 conference games, the 1-7 model is the only one that makes sense IF playing every team, home and home, in 4 years is the goal.
With 9 conference games, the 3-6 model is the most logical and still accomplishes the "every team, home and home, every 4 years". The downside to the 9-game schedule is half the league has 4 home games while the other half has 5, rotating yearly.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:03 pm to Foots51
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The downside to the 9-game schedule is half the league has 4 home games while the other half has 5, rotating yearly.
this is such an insignificant thing to care about. Not talking about you specifically, just in general. You'll still have 3 other games with presumably at least 2 of them at home.
A season with a minimum of 6 games in your home stadium doesn't really sound egregious to me; UGA has played only 6 gmaes in sanford dozens of times int he last 30 years.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:03 pm to Foots51
Perhaps the league should consider a 10-game conference schedule with 5 permanent and 5 rotating. All the major rivalries could be preserved and still accomplish the "every team, home and home, every 4 years",
Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:06 pm to Foots51
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Perhaps the league should consider a 10-game conference schedule with 5 permanent and 5 rotating.
I think that's going way too far in the other direction. For one there is no way there is a need for 5 permanent opponents. Some teams don't even have a need for more than 1. Also 10 league games means that UGA/SC/UF/UK only get 1 free game on their schedule to paly with since they have OOC in-state rivals. Taht's not really fair since the other schools can schedule 2 cupcakes.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:22 pm to 1801
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t until the media deal reflects market value for a 9th game - the fans and tradition are fricked -
Except this is not the fault of ESPN…the SEC needs to do what is best for the schools (which is NOT just monetary). Make the decision you would make if money weren’t an issue, then renegotiate when the contract is up.
You don’t weaken your product simply to spite a previous contract.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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Because UGA and AU don't have a 2-game contract to play where one of the games was as OOC opponents and the other game was as conference opponents.
You're making this more compliaced than it should be. Think about our opener with oregaon last year, but pretend it was in autzen instead of the benz. Now pretend that starting next year they were in hte SEC and we were going to be palying them yearly. UGA has now essentially gone out there for a one-off noncon came that we won't ever get back since our future matchups are now as league members. That's the exact same thing that would've happened iwht the OU series.
Us and AU deciding among ourselves to play yearly doens't affect the SEC in any way. Each team would just be ditching one of the cupcake tomato cans and playing each other instead.
No, I'm not. Why couldn't we have played the return game in Norman as a non-con game?
Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:27 pm to WG_Dawg
I just don't understand why they're putting so much emphasis on playing every team every 2 years. If you want to keep an 8 game schedule, you can do it to where each team has 3 permanents and just rotate the other 5.
Like let's just take LSU as an example. Whatever teams you want, let's say Ole Miss, Bama, and A&M. Play those three teams, then the first year's 5 play Florida, Texas, Vandy, Miss St, and UGA. 2nd year play OU, Auburn, Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee. Then the 3rd year you have the 2 remaining teams (South Carolina, Mizzou) and 3 teams from the first batch. Then the 4th year you have the other 2 teams from the first batch that weren't used the previous year, and then 3 teams from the 2nd batch, and so on.
Every team is played every 3 years which I think it perfectly reasonable, 8 game schedule is maintained, and rivalries are preserved.
Like let's just take LSU as an example. Whatever teams you want, let's say Ole Miss, Bama, and A&M. Play those three teams, then the first year's 5 play Florida, Texas, Vandy, Miss St, and UGA. 2nd year play OU, Auburn, Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee. Then the 3rd year you have the 2 remaining teams (South Carolina, Mizzou) and 3 teams from the first batch. Then the 4th year you have the other 2 teams from the first batch that weren't used the previous year, and then 3 teams from the 2nd batch, and so on.
Every team is played every 3 years which I think it perfectly reasonable, 8 game schedule is maintained, and rivalries are preserved.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:05 pm to WaterLink
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Alabama-Auburn
Georgia-Florida
Texas-Oklahoma
Mississippi State-Ole Miss
Tennessee-Vanderbilt
Arkansas-Missouri
Texas A&M-LSU
South Carolina-Kentucky
Obviously I don't feel the pain of SEC fan losing all these traditional rivalry games...
But looking at these matchups. Tennessee should be jumping for joy compared to every other team.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:08 pm to TideSaint
Go to 9 games
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:24 pm to TideSaint
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“The way we’re gonna do our seven-team rotation, one-team fixed,” Saban began. “I think you’re gonna play everybody every four years, so almost every guy at your school is going to play every team in the conference. Which I think is great as well.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:30 pm to bodask42
quote:Yes, you did. Bama switched from being a proponent of the 3/6 model to the 1/7 model when they saw who their 3 would be. In deciding the 3 for each school, they looked at everyone’s conference records for the last 10 years and split the league into groups: the top 8 and bottom 8. Top 8 teams were to get two top 8 opponents and one lower 8. Reverse that for the lower 8. Tennessee fell into the lower 8 (just barely) allowing the league to give Bama Auburn, LSU, and UT as permanent opponents (the first two being top 8). Saban blew a gasket because, numbers notwithstanding, he doesn’t see UT as being a lower tier team and thinks Bama got a raw deal. It’s not really UT that he objects to, it’s LSU, but that was only possible because of how UT was classified.
Yea 7+1 sucks, but we didnt choose it
I think they need to go back to the chalkboard and find some kind of 3/6 slate that will garner enough votes. Saban will switch in a heartbeat, as long as he gets 3 he’s happy with.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:34 pm to TideSaint
Perfect schedule! We all get to play each other very often! And bama and Georgia don't avoid each other 6+ years straight.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:37 pm to New Money
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The SEC nixed the UGA/OU series because UGA's return game in Norman would have been after OU was a member. They wouldn't let that one be played as a non-conference game.
I'm guessing ESPN was behind this. My theory is that they didn't want Fox to get a UGA/OU game but ESPN not get their UGA/OU game.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:36 pm to twk
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Yes, you did. Bama switched from being a proponent of the 3/6 model to the 1/7 model when they saw who their 3 would be.
I meant “we” as fans, not representing Bama. I personally definitely prefer 9 conference games period (whether that’s a 6+3, or whatever configuration).
But if the SEC has somehow settled on an asinine 8 conference games for a 16 team league (whoever’s fault it is) all Im saying is Bama, Tenn, AU, UGA, and whoever else is in danger of losing a yearly rivalry they want to preserve, all have the power to schedule their rival without the SEC on an open date. Is it ideal? Probably not. But I promise I wont care any less on the Third Saturday in October whether it counts towards only the overall record, or the conference record too. To let a special tradition slip away and blame it on the conference when the schools have the power to do something about it themselves is pussy shite.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:41 pm to TideSaint
Fans will just have to adjust. College football is changing and not in a good way unfortunately.
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