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re: Looking back to the preseason SEC QB rankings
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:46 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:46 pm to joshnorris14
No arguments with that list
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:53 pm to thunderbird1100
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Probably most surprising on that list is PFF doesnt see a bad starting QB in the SEC.
Most of their games thus far have been against inferior teams so not too surprising.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:18 pm to thunderbird1100
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He made some critical errors in the end of that BYU game for instance.
Yeah, he had an uncharacteristic interception in that game, but his shanked punts, holding penalties and piss poor play call on 4th and 1 are inexcusable for him. He needs to correct that. His 8 penalties at crucial times hurt the team and he should have to sit out the next game.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:36 pm to charminultra
71 percent with new receivers and a terrible offensive line seems to be pretty good.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:41 pm to Csmims
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71 percent with new receivers and a terrible offensive line seems to be pretty good.
I heard the other day that our offense averages over 30 points a game with KJ and 13 points without him. I’d say he’s pretty important to the team.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:20 am to FootsFanatic
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Weigman ... Dude is a stud and future 1st rounder. We finally have the "it factor" QB again.
... the Miami Hurricanes - not the Miami Dolphins - have already debunked your 'claim' - 22 incomplete passes and 2 ints - 15 point loss Auburn this weekend will only reaffirm it -
Aggy QB did have great games against New Mexico and Monroe - which as we all know is a direct indicator of future NFL success -
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:21 am to joshnorris14
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I struggled with that one, but Rattler cost his team in the 2nd half of Georgia
this is a hot take for sure.
I will never understand the hate that rattler gets. He lost his job at OU while completing 74% of his passes. He also lost it to a heisman winner. Last season started out rough, but that OC was trash. We are seeing how bad Satt is at Nebraska right now, and how he handles QB's. This season Rattler has been unreal for us. He has very little time, and has probably completed more throws while being hit than any other QB on this list. He threw 2 late ints vs UGA on long downs. UGA was able to get pressure with 3 or 4 coming at him and drop people into coverage, thats not on Spencer.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:26 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:24 am to 1801
Weigman has only played in eight CFB games, his OL is not good, and he's incredibly accurate anyway. The only thing that derails Weigman is a medical problem like concussions.
He wasn't remotely the problem against Miami. That is on Durkin and his terrible defensive strategy
He wasn't remotely the problem against Miami. That is on Durkin and his terrible defensive strategy
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:25 am to joshnorris14
Brady Cook been the surprise so far. Him and Connor.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:32 am to ColoradoAg
quote:here's another QB that fits that description perfectly -
hit OL is not good, and he's incredibly accurate.
he's got two top 5 wins and was up 11 over #1 on the road last week at the half even after his All-SEC WR left the game after scoring an early 1Q TD -
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:33 am to FootsFanatic
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Weigman is certainly a Top 3 SEC QB. And right now, he is a Top 3 national QB
He wouldn't even be top 3 in the pac. Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:36 am to mwade91383
Weigman is the only reason that A&M has a shot at a "decent" season.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:42 am to themetalreb
Have you watched Milroe play? I know the O line has not helped any of the QB’s Bama has played but Milroe is a turnover machine. He has 2ints on the year but he has threw some balls that should have been picked off but wasn’t for whatever reason.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:48 am to FootsFanatic
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What I do NOT understand one bit is....Daniels at LSU. When that guy is hurried he is statistically TERRIBLE.
What #'s are you looking at, Daniels is one of the best against the blitz and against pressure
All of the percentages are adjusted completion percentages, meaning passes that should have been caught, whether they were or not.
ADJ COMP %
1. DILLON GABRIEL 89%
2. CALEB WILLIAMS 86%
3. TYLER VAN DYKE 86%
4. SHEDEUR SANDERS 86%
5. DANTE MOORE 85%
6. DRAKE MAYE 85%
7. GRAHAM MERTZ 85%
8. BO NIX 85%
9. MICHAEL PENIX JR 84%
10. KJ JEFFERSON 84%
PRODUCTION (YARDS PER ATTEMPT)
1. CALEB WILLIAMS 12.4
2. JAXSON DART 12.3
3. DANTE MOORE 12.1
4. MICHAEL PENIX JR 11.7
5. DILLON GABRIEL 11.4
6. TYLER VAN DYKE 10.9
7. KYLE MCCORD 10.7
8. JJ MCCARTHY 10.3
9. JALON DANIELS KANSAS 10.2
10. JAYDEN DANIELS 10.1
DEEP BALLS
1. DANTE MOORE 89%
2. TYLER VAN DYKE 82%
3. JAYDEN DANIELS 82%
4. DREW ALLAR 71%
5. JAXSON DART 67%
6. KJ JEFFERSON 67%
7. DRAKE MAYE 67%
8. CONNER WEIGMAN 64%
9. SPENCER RATTLER 64%
10. JALEN MILROE 64%
INTERMEDIATE THROWS
1. CALEB WILLIAMS 92%
2. MICHAEL PENIX JR 88%
3. NATE JOHNSON UTAH 86%
4. DRAKE MAYE 86%
5. KJ JEFFERSON 85%
6. DILLON GABRIEL 83%
7. BLAKE SHAPEN BAYLOR 82%
8. JJ MCCARTHY 81%
9. GRAHAM MERTZ 79%
QB’S UNDER PRESSURE
MOST EFFICIENT UNDER PRESSURE:
1. JAXSON DART 92%
2. ROCCO BECHT IOWA STATE 86%
3. DILLON GABRIEL 83%
4. MICHAEL PENIX JR 80%
5. JAYDEN DANIELS 80%
6. JALON DANIELS KANSAS 80%
7. TAYVEN JACKSON INDIANA 78%
8. CALEB WILLIAMS 75%
“MAKE THEM PAY”-YARDS PER ATTEMPT VS BLITZ
1. MICHAEL PENIX JR 14.6
2. BLAKE SHAPEN BAYLOR 12.8
3. GARRETT SHRADER SYRACUSE 12.8
4. JAXSON DART 12.2
5. JAYDEN DANIELS 11.7
6. DANTE MOORE 11.5
7. JJ MCCARTHY 11.2
8. CALEB WILLIAMS 11.1
9. DILLON GABRIEL 10.6
10. DREW ALLAR 10.5
MAKING BLITZ PAY- ADJUSTED % VS BLITZ
1. CALEB WILLIAMS 92%
2. JAYDEN DANIELS 90%
3. KJ JEFFERSON 88%
4. CAMERON WARD WASH ST 88%
5. MICHAEL PENIX JR 88%
6. TAULIA TAGOVAILOA 86%
7. DANTE MOORE 86%
8. SPENCER RATTLER 85%
9. DREW ALLAR 81%
10. CARSON BECK 81%
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:06 am to Quicksilver
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Competition. Mertz has played two ranked teams yet their numbers are very comparable.
I'm interested to see where it plays out.
Stetson Bennetts QB efficiency against ranked opponents in 2022 was 190.99.
His QB efficiency against unranked opponents was 136.86.
Georgia has a tendency to "work on Georgia" when we play teams with huge talent deficiencies.
We then put that experience and those reps to work against better competition.
Carson Beck hasn't played a team with a winning FBS record yet. QB efficiency is 155.32 against his 2 FBS opponents thus far.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:11 am to BayouCowboy
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As much as I hate to say it, I think Weigman is a very good QB
Having only watched the Miami game, I’d agree. He’s legit.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:29 am to joshnorris14
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Looking back to the preseason SEC QB rankings
This years QB debate is mostly a lot of “what ifs” to this point…
Weigman & Rattler have played well despite bad OL’s. How well would they look with a clean pocket?
Milroe made some early mistakes, but wasn’t given the chance to work through them. How much better would he look if he wasn’t on the carousel?
Will Rogers is being asked to run a whole new system which doesn’t suite his strengths. How much better would he be if Leach was around?
The list goes on, but you get the point. Weird season so far for QB evals in the SEC.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:43 am to SETH6180
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PRODUCTION (YARDS PER ATTEMPT)
2. JAXSON DART 12.3
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DEEP BALLS
5. JAXSON DART 67%
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MOST EFFICIENT UNDER PRESSURE:
1. JAXSON DART 92%
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“MAKE THEM PAY”-YARDS PER ATTEMPT VS BLITZ
4. JAXSON DART 12.2
All without his #1 TE for all games, one starting wide receiver for all games, his main #1 WR for 2 games, and a struggling running game and OL(outside of his 136 yard performance last week)
Would not trade Dart for anyone right now. Dude is on fire.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Ego. Arnett is a dullard.
I can’t understand why you’d take a team full of players recruited and taught specifically to play a unique style of football and then completely throw that entire way of doing things in the trash can without expecting it to be a dumpster fire.
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