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re: Legendary SEC coaches that never won the big one.

Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:00 pm to
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I thought he won a title at Pitt


Pitt claims two, but 1980 UGA and 1981 Clemson may take issue with it.

EDIT: Actually Pitt doesn’t claim them, but in 80 and 81 various orgs declared them champ. NYT in 1980 is one such case.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Bryno1960
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:02 pm to
It was Johnny Majors who won the national title in 1976 with Matt Cavanaugh at QB and Tony Dorsett at RB. They defeated UGA in the 77 Sugar Bowl.
Posted by theliontamer
Chicago
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:19 pm to
12 year HC during the height of sec dominance. Made miss state relevant and ranked #1. Went to 4 NY6 bowls. SEC east champ. The guy was good for the conference.
Posted by WhateverUWant
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:27 pm to
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Did you forget about Brian Kelly?


Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:36 pm to
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12 year HC during the height of sec dominance. Made miss state relevant and ranked #1. Went to 4 NY6 bowls. SEC east champ. The guy was good for the conference.
He may have done pretty well, and even been good for the conference, but nothing about that resume speaks "legendary" unless legendary means "above average".
Posted by Partha
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:56 pm to
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He had Mississippi State ranked as the #1 team in the country at one point this century.

Thats legendary shite.
While that was a pretty solid accomplishment, it was more smoke and mirrors than legendary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Mississippi_State_Bulldogs_football_team

Miss State got that ranking by winning 3 straight games against top 10 ranked opponents early in the season.

Week 4, they beat no. 8 LSU, who was 3-0 having beaten Wisconsin and two scrubs, but finished the season unranked with an 8-5 (4-4) record.

The following game, they beat No. 6 Texas A&M who was 5-0 and had beat South Carolina, Rice, Lamar, SMU and Arkansas. Aggy ultimately finished unranked 8-5 (3-5) that season as well.

Then they beat #2 Auburn, who was 5-0, beating Arkansas, San Jose State, Kanas St, LA Tech, and #15 LSU (who ended up being 8-5 and unranked). Auburn finished the season 8-5 (4-4), ranked #22.

With those 3 wins, they the newly formed CFP selection committee decided they were the #1 team, having put a lot of weight into those 3 wins. Ms State kept that ranking for two more games, beating bad Kentucky and Arkansas teams, before losing to Bama, which led to them losing 3 out of their last for games, including a double digit loss to a high school offense from a nerd school.

Miss State finished outside of the top 10.

Basically, they beat three 8-5 teams in a row before they got exposed and were still ranked in the top #10 and the playoff committee was impressed so decided to make Miss St #1 (plus it was good for ratings for the new weekly playoff show).

Was it a solid accomplishment? Sure. But does beating three 8-5 teams and 2 shitty teams make that accomplishment "legendary" ?
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 3:58 pm
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:59 pm to
His was a brief stay but Mike Leach has to be on this list.
Posted by n64ra
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:20 pm to
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Tuberville won in 2004

Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:23 pm to
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His was a brief stay but Mike Leach has to be on this list.


I’m glad the CFHOF loosened the rules to let him in. He originally didn’t have the win % to be eligible.

He left one of the biggest marks on football of any coach in history. Modern day offenses have his fingerprints all over them. And then there’s his ridiculous coaching tree.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 4:24 pm
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Tubberville
Richt
Dye
Cholly Mac
Jackie Sherrill
Dan Mullen
Gus Malzahn





None of these guys are close to legendary
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 5:27 pm to
Might be wrong but Jackie Sherrill coached Pitts Dan Marino and Tony Dorsett teams. Think he has one maybe two titles
Posted by boston vol
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 5:31 pm to
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Might be wrong but Jackie Sherrill coached Pitts Dan Marino and Tony Dorsett teams. Think he has one maybe two titles

Johnny Majors won the title with Pitt in ‘76. Jackie Sherrill second in two occasions, but never won a title.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
30142 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 5:40 pm to
We all know Auburn can make up titles a ton.
Posted by morganwadefan
TN
Member since May 2023
1742 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:29 pm to
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Kevin Sumlin No one could chew gum and get paid off of others' accomplishments like that man.


BK?
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
10003 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 11:26 pm to
The state of AL knows about fake titles
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 3:07 am to
That was Majors.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:51 am to
That's a lot of words to tell us how you really feel about Mullen touching you.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:44 am to
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That's a lot of words to tell us how you really feel about Mullen touching you.
Or I could've just said that he's not that good of a coach.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:56 am to
Few recognize any non-wire service NCs (AP, Coaches poll) from 1936 forward. Alabama was voted/selected as NCs in 30-35 seasons by someone, some of which are ludicrous. Alabama only recognize 18. They don’t even include 1945 or 1966 when they were undefeated and untied. I just count 17 because the1941 claim is a joke.

Everyone laughs at AU’s recent claims. You aught to be happy with your legit 2, most programs don’t have multiple NCs.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5924 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 12:39 pm to
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None of these guys are close to legendary

I think Pat Dye had a great career and a legacy at Auburn that goes beyond his accomplishments on paper.

He snapped Bryant’s nine game winning streak against Auburn and turned the tables on the rivalry. He won/shared several SEC titles and had teams that were nationally relevant. He coached Bo. He was instrumental in getting the Iron Bowl to JHS, which was a big deal at the time.

I would also consider him very much an “Auburn Man” and not just a hired gun like most coaches today.

He may not have his own wing in the Hall of Fame, but he’s in there and had an enormous impact on Auburn and SEC football.

Yes, he’s a legend.
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