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re: League presidents to vote on new SEC schedule today (June 1)
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:17 am to TFS4E
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:17 am to TFS4E
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I like playing Florida every year. Some of my best LSU memories were Florida games (i.e. '97, '07, '11)
In defense of LSU, it seems to be a vocal minority on here and the LSU coaching staff doing the crying. Reading the thread on Tiger Rant shows a majority of y'all are fine with keeping the UF rivalry game.
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:18 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
Isn't it always the vocal minority that gives fan bases a bad name? 
ETA: For example I find it hard to believe that no one respects LSU or some LSU fans as Monticello suggests.
ETA: For example I find it hard to believe that no one respects LSU or some LSU fans as Monticello suggests.
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:20 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:19 am to Bellabama
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I'm surprised LSU is 3rd in the west.
They'll be 2nd after this year. Then you will have the SEC West's #1 playing the SECe's #2...the SECe's #1 playing the SECw's #2...the SECe's #3 playing the SECw's #3...and then it filters down proportionatly after that.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:19 am to allin2010
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Past History Supports Permanent Rivals
Actually, the non-division format set forth when the SEC added Arkansas and South Carolina to get to 12 teams and split into divisions for the first time was not a “vague” stab at what rivalries were more important. It was based on economic term much older than the SEC – the haves and have nots.
“One of the first things we did was decide who were the haves and have nots based on history,” said Doug Dickey, who was Tennessee’s athletic director from 1985 through 2002 and Florida’s head football coach from 1970-78.
“And we put three in each division,” Dickey said in a telephone interview. “Based on history, the haves were Alabama, Auburn and LSU in the West and Florida, Georgia and Tennessee in the East. Then we decided the haves should play the haves and the have nots should play the have nots. That’s why LSU is playing Florida and Alabama’s playing Tennessee and Auburn’s playing Georgia. It makes sense”
As for the historical have nots, it was Mississippi State and Kentucky and Ole Miss and Vanderbilt.
I agree with all of that - tho I imagine Ole Miss fans would dispute being categorized as a historical "have not"
That's 19,999 posts for me... have to decide if I want a special 20k post or if I'm just going to ignore it.
Just in case I don't post for a while
To Ole Miss, Arkansas, Alabama, and whoever else needs it
And
to any LSU fans looking to bow out from teh Florida game
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:20 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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In defense of LSU, it seems to be a vocal minority on here and the LSU coaching staff doing the crying. Reading the thread on Tiger Rant shows a majority of y'all are fine with keeping the UF rivalry game.
Has anyone figured out the years that losing to Florida kept LSU from going to the SECCG?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:23 am to Bellabama
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Has anyone figured out the years that losing to Florida kept LSU from going to the SECCG?
1996 & 2006
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:25 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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2006
I thought they blamed that one on us, you know the "refs".
Maybe next we will hear all the complaints on why Bama/Auburn/UF/UT/UGA kept them out out the 1930's bacardi bowl
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:29 am to NYCAuburn
I think if they've lost more than one game, you can't directly blame Florida. In 2003, they lost and still made it. In 2007, if not for beating Florida, they may not have made it.
ETA: Wow... in 1996 they lost to Florida, but then to Alabama 26=0. Meh.
ETA: Wow... in 1996 they lost to Florida, but then to Alabama 26=0. Meh.
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:30 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
So it is all in one place for reference.
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Since '92 expansion...and I've got a headache from adding all this shite up.
SEC West
Alabama: 173-75-1
Auburn: 168-75-2
LSU: 165-80-1
Arkansas: 136-103-2
Ole Miss: 119-116-0
Miss. State: 109-126-2
SEC East
UF: 196-59-1
UT: 175-74-1
UGA: 171-76-1
USC: 118-115-1
UK: 96-132-0
Vandy: 68-162-0
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Since the SEC went to the current scheduling system in 2000:
LSU .783 123-34____UF .737 115-41
AU .714 110-44____UGA .730 114-42
UA .653 96-51_____UT .618 94-58
Ark .609 92-59____USC .590 88-61
OM .476 69-76____Van .296 42-100
MSU .402 58-86____UK .420 61-84
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:36 am to Bellabama
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I'm surprised LSU is 3rd in the west
LSU historically is a top 15/top 20 club. The aberration of the nadir 90's is more stark than the aberration of a top 5 club in new century. Though obviously I hope current success continues long enough to be considered the norm, not the exception:
1893-1989 12th
1990-1999 62nd
2000-2011 5th
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1893-2011 12th
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:42 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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It is amazing how a multiple BCS winning program can be made up of such giant crybabies. I pick on yall for having little brother syndrome on the regular, but Auburn fans have stanless steel balls the size of the fricking moon compared to the BB sized marbles that reside in the LSU fanbase. It is seriously fricking pathetic and to be honest, embarassing.
what a tool
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:46 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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"If Mississippi State is going to play Kentucky every year, that's disproportionate," he said Wednesday. "This is not equitable. I'm not for Auburn playing Georgia every year. I'm not for LSU playing Florida every year. This is all based on some vague tradition that is not considering that you're adding teams to the conference. I mean Florida is not even a nearby state." -CLM
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:54 am to CBandits82
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what a tool
I could say the exact same thing about several of the LSU posters in this thread. This entire issue has brought out the bleeding vaginas in your fanbase. Y'all truly will bitch about anything.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:55 am to ThaKaptin
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Y'all truly will bitch about anything.
I would start a list but I'm leaving work in about 4 hours and afraid I wouldn't finish in time.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:58 am to Bellabama
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I think if they've lost more than one game, you can't directly blame Florida. In 2003, they lost and still made it. In 2007, if not for beating Florida, they may not have made it.
So twice in about 20 years, that it might even be called into question. And I agree, if they lost another game and moreso another game to a west opponent, they have no room to bitch. They still would have to play them in two series of two game during that 20 year period, which could have been durning that time frame(96 & 06). So once again they have no room to bitch and moan.
Especially before 2001 when their other permanent opponent was UK, Auburn's were UGA & UF(we didnt want to get rid of UF but were forced to)
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:59 am to orangehater
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great post the people need to realize that these "vague rivalries" built this conference. Uga vs Au started in 1892,
For those of you complaining about the term "vague rivalries", how many consider LSU/Tulane to be a vague rivalry?
What so many seem to want to forget is that the LSU Tulane rivalry was just as important in the SEC in terms of building the conference as Alabama/Tenn and/or Auburn/UGA.
The rivalry started in 1893, and was in the top ten most played rivalries when it was ended in the 90's.
But MORE IMPORTANTLY it was this rivalry that gave the SEC the Sugar Bowl. Without the Sugar Bowl the SEC would not be near the league it is today. As Tulane Stadium was built, there was a competition between Tulane and LSU to have the larger stadium. When the Sugar Bowl committee was formed they brought more money and upgrades to Tulane Stadium, which in turn led to more expansion of Tiger Stadium and on and on... Either Tulane or LSU took part in 5 of the first 6 Sugar Bowls.
That said, the rivalry was ended. It happens. Just like the Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry ended, just like the Texas/A&M rivalry ended.
Rivalries end and college football goes on.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:01 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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This is all based on some vague tradition that is not considering that you're adding teams to the conference. I mean Florida is not even a nearby state."
Les, would you be in favor of Ohio State-Michigan ended their series to bend over for new Big Ten members in the future?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:03 am to Cdawg
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:05 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Was Tulane in the conference when the Rivalry ended? had Tulane remained a decent football school and in the SEC, do you really think that rivalry would be ended?
the rivalry was ended. It happens.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:05 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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"If Mississippi State is going to play Kentucky every year, that's disproportionate," he said Wednesday. "This is not equitable. I'm not for Auburn playing Georgia every year. I'm not for LSU playing Florida every year. This is all based on some vague tradition that is not considering that you're adding teams to the conference. I mean Florida is not even a nearby state." -CLM
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