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re: Kurt Roper no longer OC at SC

Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:31 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:31 am to
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McClendon should be ready.


That would be my guess, but there is going to be a lot of buzz around Bobby Bentley as well.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:50 am to
McClendon has been going on visits along with CWM to recruits (commits) so maybe that was to introduce him as the new OC to them?
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:53 am to
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Muschamp will be assuming offensive playcalling duties


Except he won't be.

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Purest definition of blind leading the blind



And we'd still beat your asses.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:57 am to
Word on our 247 site is to watch for:

Current OM OC Phil Longo

Former OM OC Dan Werner
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10987 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:53 am to
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He makes the easy, most comfortable decision every time.


Probably learned that at Auburn.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:55 am to
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I know y'all hated him but he's the only OC that ever gave a Muschamp team a pulse on offense (he may be better than he looked). Hopefully y'all find a good replacement. Your offense should look better with players returning regardless.



On a Gamecock board I go to, someone posted some comments by Perry Orth (he was one of our qb's Muschamp's first year before Bentley took over).

Orth said Muschamp came up with the offensive and defensive game plans himself.

That's anecdotal, and I'm not sure how many -hand's removed that is. But would it be surprising?

And if that is true, no OC Muschamp brings in ever, is going to have any real success. And in the end he is ultimately going to fail here.

Personally I don't think a head coach should have the time to do things like come up with game plans, let alone call one side of the ball in a game. That fricker better be relentlessly promoting the brand, grabbing the mike from the sideline reporter at halftime, and recruiting relentless - forever.

That said, Muschamp could certainly run the defense and go a long, long way. But he hasn't shown sign one in his whole career he knows what he is doing running an offense.

For all his good points, for all the matter that in a lot of ways he is exactly what we need, I think this is going to fail in the not-so-long run if he doesn't actually live up to the spirit of what he said when he got hired here.

And to be honest, the coaching community knows what goes on behind the scenes a lot better than we do. No OC worth his salt is going to take a job where Muschamp's hand is up his arse.

And if some guy in Indiana say, is approached about the job, well he might not know the downlow on what happens with Muschamp. But he will know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the skinny.

I didn't want to believe it, but I am becoming convinced the guys who said Muschamp meddles with offense are right. Maybe he isn't calling plays during the game, but what we see on the field is what he wants.

And as someone posted here (and a few other places), Muschamp teams have never finished higher than, what 96th on offense, in six years?

If he would actually do what he said he would when he was hired, he could do big things here. But I'm starting to think he won't. And what he is doing is not going to work against teams with better talent.

And unless one of the teams on our schedule (Florida, Georgia, A&M, and yes Tennessee now) have a suck recruiter (Mullen might do big things, but he isn't Kirby level or Mayer), that is guaranteed in probably 4 games a year. Ooops, forgot Clemson.

My take anyway.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35636 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:20 am to
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McElwain is available.


quote:

I actually wouldn't be opposed to that.


you should be.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95906 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:24 am to
Even if for no other reason than "no more Florida coaches"
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:34 am to
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You joke but it's literally impossible for anyone to call a worse offense than Roper


I would take him over Nuss any day of the week. Muschamp has never had a good OC . One day you guys will realize that your problem on offense is the HC and not OC.
Posted by 2014cock
Member since Apr 2011
628 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:41 am to
It's official now, McClendon will call plays for the bowl game.

OC won't be named until after the bowl game as well.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:50 am to
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someone posted some comments by Perry Orth


Because everything posted on message boards is true. Until it comes out of Perry Orth's mouth, and I hear it, I do not believe it was said. Not by Orth, anyway.

As for everything else you said, sure. There's obviously a history of offensive failure as HC while at Florida. The offense has struggled here. I reserve final judgement until we get the next OC in here, whoever that may be, and see if the results remain pretty much the same. If so, he's gonna have to go. I really hope that isn't the case, though. I actually like Muschamp and it certainly seems like our guys think the world of him. I would really, really like to see him succeed here and prove everyone...including some of our own fanbase, apparently...wrong.

ETA: B-Mac is coaching offense until after the bowl game and then the new OC will be announced. There's some chatter about Phil Longo (Ole Miss)and the OC position.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95906 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:59 am to
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One day you guys will realize that your problem on offense is the HC and not OC.


A Florida fan telling us about offense problems lol
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19137 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:55 am to
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You joke but it's literally impossible for anyone to call a worse offense than Roper.


Larry Scott: "Hold my beer"
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:59 am to
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Personally I don't think a head coach should have the time to do things like come up with game plans, let alone call one side of the ball in a game.





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Maybe he isn't calling plays during the game, but what we see on the field is what he wants.





This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16556 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:05 am to
Wish you all the best with Longo and Werner. I think SC could do better but have at it.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:05 am to
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That would be my guess, but there is going to be a lot of buzz around Bobby Bentley as well.



It would be shocking if it isn't one of either McClendon or Bentley. There's always the possibility of hurt feelings bringing someone new in, unless it's just a proven, homerun hire. These guys all have big egos.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:12 am to
I'd personally be alright with going with the Run game/pass game coordinators with these two.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:26 am to
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I'd personally be alright with going with the Run game/pass game coordinators with these two.



I know co-coordinators doesn't always work, but it's been a couple of good years with Elliot and Scott. They were teammates and I believe roommates as well, though, so it's probably easier for them to work together.

How do you think it'll go the first time a "new guy" pulls Bentley for Joyner? I would guess not good.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:40 am to
I think there is a lot of potential with both McClendon and Bentley. They'll get shots somewhere else if not at SC.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:55 am to
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A Florida fan telling us about offense problems lol


Your head coach started those offensive problems. That’s why he was fired and now with USC. You will find out in a few years once he has had a OCs and still doesn’t have an offense.
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