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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:23 am to makersmark1
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:23 am to makersmark1
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Solid Post
Like they said
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:40 am to makersmark1
AU beat Bama for 3 reasons.
1. Stay committed to the run even though bama had 3 of their 4 Lbs back and were the healthier team than AU. AU did just enough in the running game to keep the defense on the field.
2. Stidham played great and was pinpoint accurate all game. You have to hit throws with their DBs all over your WRs and he did.
3. AU DL only rushed 4 and was able to put pressure on Hurts all night. They whipped Bama OL. You don't have to whip them but you have to at least compete with their lines consistently.
That's it, that's all
1. Stay committed to the run even though bama had 3 of their 4 Lbs back and were the healthier team than AU. AU did just enough in the running game to keep the defense on the field.
2. Stidham played great and was pinpoint accurate all game. You have to hit throws with their DBs all over your WRs and he did.
3. AU DL only rushed 4 and was able to put pressure on Hurts all night. They whipped Bama OL. You don't have to whip them but you have to at least compete with their lines consistently.
That's it, that's all
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:41 am to coachcrisp
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Unless one of their backs brake off an extremely long run (like Chubb did when they played last),IMO, Georgia won't sniff a 200 yard rushing day.
When is this not true?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:43 am to makersmark1
stack the box against Bama, let your QB throw the ball and you will beat them !
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:44 am to makersmark1
I agree with all your points, but I'd make one addition and it is the most important.
1. Elite QB play
In all but the 2011 LSU loss, the opposing QB has played a stellar game against Bama. I'm not talking about a perfect game. But the QB needs to put the ball in some tight windows, needs to make some clutch 3rd down throws, needs to avoid illegal formation and delay of game penalties, etc.
1. Elite QB play
In all but the 2011 LSU loss, the opposing QB has played a stellar game against Bama. I'm not talking about a perfect game. But the QB needs to put the ball in some tight windows, needs to make some clutch 3rd down throws, needs to avoid illegal formation and delay of game penalties, etc.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:01 am to makersmark1
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I wonder whether UGA can rush for 150? Thoughts?
Well, they certainly can. But, Saban has always tried to take away what you do best and what UGA does best is run the ball. If stopping that one thing happens to be what Bama is really good at then you got big problems. Kirby of course knows this so he will be working on throwing the ball all week. I suspect he'll be throwing it on 1st down a lot.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:08 am to BearBait09
quote:I'd say when a team pounds the running game and controls the LOS. Alabama has done it MANY times.
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Unless one of their backs brake off an extremely long run (like Chubb did when they played last),IMO, Georgia won't sniff a 200 yard rushing day.
When is this not true?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:17 am to TIGERSPIKE
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1. Stay committed to the run even though bama had 3 of their 4 Lbs back and were the healthier team than AU.
lolwut?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:27 am to bama1959
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I suspect he'll be throwing it on 1st down a lot.
Our offense has really opened up since we started calling a balanced 1st down (50/50 run/pass).
It started about halfway through the 2nd quarter against Kentucky (11 straight runs on first down had net 7 points. The next first down was a TD throw. In a span of 9 minutes of gametime, we had 3 TDs).
In the SECCG, UGA converted first downs against Auburn on 6 out of 7 first down opportunities by throwing on 1st down (tray Matthews sacked Fromm on one pass opportunity, and UGA failed to pickup a 1st down).
In the Rose Bowl, a pass play on 1st down net a 1st down or score in 11 out of 14 opportunities.
Prior to the Rose Bowl, our yards per play since that drive against Kentucky was over 10! (And that includes salting away wins by running the ball against UK, GT, etc..)
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:45 am to meansonny
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Our offense has really opened up since we started calling a balanced 1st down (50/50 run/pass).
It started about halfway through the 2nd quarter against Kentucky (11 straight runs on first down had net 7 points. The next first down was a TD throw. In a span of 9 minutes of gametime, we had 3 TDs).
In the SECCG, UGA converted first downs against Auburn on 6 out of 7 first down opportunities by throwing on 1st down (tray Matthews sacked Fromm on one pass opportunity, and UGA failed to pickup a 1st down).
In the Rose Bowl, a pass play on 1st down net a 1st down or score in 11 out of 14 opportunities.
Prior to the Rose Bowl, our yards per play since that drive against Kentucky was over 10! (And that includes salting away wins by running the ball against UK, GT, etc..)
I'm sure Saban will be anticipating the first down pass as well. The problem will come when Fromm does not connect. It won't be as easy as throwing against UK or OU. The first pass he misses will give you 2nd and 10. Run the ball next play and it's probably 3rd and 6 or 7.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:57 am to Shaft Williams
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Oklahoma was not that good
You would lose to Oklahoma.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:59 am to DamnGoodDawg11
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You would lose to Oklahoma.
I am not so sure about that. Alabama has a better defense than Georgia. But Georgia does have the better offense. But ultimately Oklahoma would make Hurts look like Lamar Jackson. It would be another shootout that comes down to a few plays. Same as Georgia-Oklahoma.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:03 am to CapstoneGrad06
Ya.. we will never know.
The thing that I can't decipher on Bama is offense. I am not sure you would have been able to keep up with OU even if you only allowed 28. Maybe a 28-24 type deal. I thought your offense looked pretty terrible against Clemson, basically scoring 7 points against a team that lost to Syracuse.
All that said, I am nervous and excited about Monday. I hope the dawgs can pull it out. Should be a good game.
Best part is that before the battle starts, Bama and UGA fans can rejoice together at the fact that both are in the NCG while Auburn got dominated by a kid with one arm.
The thing that I can't decipher on Bama is offense. I am not sure you would have been able to keep up with OU even if you only allowed 28. Maybe a 28-24 type deal. I thought your offense looked pretty terrible against Clemson, basically scoring 7 points against a team that lost to Syracuse.
All that said, I am nervous and excited about Monday. I hope the dawgs can pull it out. Should be a good game.
Best part is that before the battle starts, Bama and UGA fans can rejoice together at the fact that both are in the NCG while Auburn got dominated by a kid with one arm.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:20 am to makersmark1
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makersmark1
What are the keys to beating Georgia?
You had the recipe the first time around. What did they adjust for the second time that worked so well?
I tried to word this so you wouldn't get bombed with stupid replies, but I think your perspective on this would be a good one.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:21 am to VADawg
Move the QB out of the pocket consistently.
Throw the damn ball down the field a ton. They have trouble with cross routes, etc in the 15-20 yard. Look at Clemson tape from last year.
Run right at them occasionally with traps.
Run trick play in first series it freaks Satan out
Fake punt, FG, and onside kicks freak him out too.
Don’t be predictable. Take chanses. Go for it on 4th etc.
LSU has lost 7 in a roll without st least 3 to 4 of these solely because we got a lead etc and then played conservative, or played conservative trying to keep it close.
Losing 24-21 is not any better than 49-10. Go for it. I would start the game with onside kick
Throw the damn ball down the field a ton. They have trouble with cross routes, etc in the 15-20 yard. Look at Clemson tape from last year.
Run right at them occasionally with traps.
Run trick play in first series it freaks Satan out
Fake punt, FG, and onside kicks freak him out too.
Don’t be predictable. Take chanses. Go for it on 4th etc.
LSU has lost 7 in a roll without st least 3 to 4 of these solely because we got a lead etc and then played conservative, or played conservative trying to keep it close.
Losing 24-21 is not any better than 49-10. Go for it. I would start the game with onside kick
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:30 am to Big Balls
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What did they adjust for the second time that worked so well?
AU UGA games were lost by the team that played bad. Poor execution, etc
UGA did a great job running the edge in game 2. They also put faith in Fromm and let him play whereas in game 1 they were afraid to lose. See end of first half.
Beating UGA is difficult because I think Fromm is better than UGA OC does. They have a great offense and are very diverse.
So I guess as with all games: 1. Win Turnover battle- they don’t need help 2. Try to stop the run: easier said than done. They have so many quality backs; all the way down to Holyfield. 3. Hurts will have to see the blitz and throw at it (AU hit a tunnel for a TD right at a blitz). I don’t think UGA will blitz him. 4. Run the ball. Bama also is deep with good backs. 5. Find a WR to complement Ridley. Also hurts has to put the ball up for Ridley to make a play. 6. Saban knows everything about that defense so Daboll needs to listen to how to exploit it. 7. UGA is penalized a good bit in most games. Make them pay for the 15 yard penalty.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:07 am to bama1959
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I'm sure Saban will be anticipating the first down pass as well. The problem will come when Fromm does not connect. It won't be as easy as throwing against UK or OU. The first pass he misses will give you 2nd and 10. Run the ball next play and it's probably 3rd and 6 or 7.
No doubt... Bama is the toughest game that we will play all season.
Anticipating pass on 1st down won't do you much good in a 50/50 situation. That's the entire point of 50/50. You will be wrong half of the time if you are guessing.
The net effect of passing on 1st down puts Fromm in a position to contribute offensively without putting too much on his shoulders (running on 2nd and 10 will hopefully net a 3rd and 6 or better. We still have the option to pass on 2nd and 10 too. So a throw should have a similar level of success that the first down offered because the defense can't cheat a tendancy).
But those figures included 1st down incompletions and sacks. We still found ways to convert the majority of those series into 1st downs or scores. And our running game improved on 1st down (see the first Auburn game for what a defense can do when they expect you to run on first downs 9 times in a row).
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:12 am to makersmark1
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3. Hurts will have to see the blitz and throw at it (AU hit a tunnel for a TD right at a blitz). I don’t think UGA will blitz him.
UGA blitzed several times in that first AU game and we got burned for 3 TDs on screens.
I think we blitzed less in the 2nd match-up.
Against OU, we blitzed on 3rd down and Mayfield made us pay on a couple of 3rd and longs.
The 2nd half adjustment was blitzing on earlier downs (the screen wasn't called to counter us and we got Mayfield to move his feet in the pocket and to be less accurate in the 2nd half).
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:19 am to makersmark1
1. Be a spread team
2. Be a spread team that has a good QB
3. Do not have a head coach that worked for him for awhile
4. Pray
2. Be a spread team that has a good QB
3. Do not have a head coach that worked for him for awhile
4. Pray
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:20 am to DaveyDownerDawg
You may not understand my intent. I am not bashing you guys. I am simply observing. Though OK jumped up on you, you were still able to score points - you were able to move the ball.
What happens when you go a quarter without a first down? What happens when you turn the ball over and the defense scores? Will the team battle through it or will they give in? Bama likes to choke a team out. We aren't perfect. We are VERY beatable (as the OP has rightly suggested.) But when I saw you fold against Auburn, I had flashbacks to the Richt days.
Meh... what do I know
What happens when you go a quarter without a first down? What happens when you turn the ball over and the defense scores? Will the team battle through it or will they give in? Bama likes to choke a team out. We aren't perfect. We are VERY beatable (as the OP has rightly suggested.) But when I saw you fold against Auburn, I had flashbacks to the Richt days.
Meh... what do I know
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