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re: Journalists Following College Athletes to Spy on Them
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:03 pm to ukraine_rebel
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:03 pm to ukraine_rebel
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Sure, if they think they have a legitimate story.
But they don’t and never did
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:05 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
quote:Have a cab or Uber or whatever drop you off near but not at the strip club.
You know the best way not to get caught out at a strip club?
Use cash only that you withdrew from an ATM several days earlier located no where near the strip club.
Turn off your phone and take your battery out of your phone if possible.
Make sure all your boys do the same and that you practice your cover story before and after the trip.
If I had to imagine...
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:12 pm to djsdawg
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College kids can’t be allowed to drink in a bar?
They can, but they need to be aware of the public perception that will follow them if/when they do.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:12 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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they learned that the football players were known to frequent this strip club, and they went to check it out.
If it's a legal establishment, why does this matter? Athletes coming into Atlanta for games have been going to Magic City for years. And frick y'all for me feeling the need to white knight for leghumpers.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:13 pm to MacMan10
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I think when 2 young people die in a car crash at 2:45 it’s fair to ask questions or consider how to prevent this in the future.
Yeah, "Don't Drink And Drive" isn't already hammered down everyone's brain every day. And we don't even know the driver was intoxicated, but let's go worst case scenario, say she was hammered. What does the name of the establishment have to do with any of it? There's a hundred drinking establishments downtown, and it was already public knowledge they were coming from downtown, partying. What is the purpose of publicizing it was a strip club, other than to add another layer of nefariousness for clicks? And then to plant another reporter in the strip club (nice gig) to catch other players coming and going. That's sleazy shite in my opinion.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:15 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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If it's a legal establishment, why does this matter? Athletes coming into Atlanta for games have been going to Magic City for years. And frick y'all for me feeling the need to white knight for leghumpers.
Exactly- That's how Lemon Pepper Lou (former Hawks player) got his name. He always walked out of Magic City with lemon pepper wings to-go, so he could tell paparazzi he was just picking up wings.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:16 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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What probably happened was in the course of investigating their story, they learned that the football players were known to frequent this strip club, and they went to check it out.
You know the best way not to get caught out at a strip club?
What is "getting caught at a strip club"???? Who cares if they go to a strip club. Strip clubs exist because young men spend money in strip clubs. If you are in a college town some of those young men are going to be students and some may even be student athletes. Who cares? It ain't a scandal for adults, it is, however, a scandal for anyone pretending it is.
No one has the right to expect privacy in public. Watching a known bar where football players frequent may be boring as hell but it is normal journalism because people will pretend to be outraged by the story on both sides and outrage sells ads and news agencies hire journalists to sell ads, period. If I were a UGA player and I went to Toppers I would not be ashamed of that fact nor would I try to hide....because who cares? Adults drink and look at naked folks sometimes. It happens. It is a common practice the world over, even in Athens Georgia.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:17 pm to Murph4HOF
A butt hurt SC fan couldn’t wait to weigh in on this story on Finebaum. Paul shot him and the AJC down fast. Basically said it’s not a crime to go into a strip club and that even if they did (and that’s a big if), it had nothing to do with the tragic accident. He thought the AJC was wrong to print this article. The AJC is now trying to defend themselves and not having much luck. It was irresponsible journalism and sheer sensationalism at the least. The AJC has never been fair to UGA. Always looking for negative stories while jumping on and off UGAs band wagon when it suited them.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:17 pm to deeprig9
A player died in a presumed DUI incident with a car driven by a UGA employee. Questions will be asked.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:18 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:Seems like the story is that this establishment potentially served alcohol to an underage player that was involved in an accident that killed him and another, while injuring a couple of more.
If it's a legal establishment, why does this matter?
A week later, more Georgia players appear to be drinking at a related establishment. If they are underage or leaving drunk and driving it’s newsworthy. It appears the writer stopped short of connecting the dots, so I think leaving out that last tidbit unless and until some connection is made, would be better, but I don’t see anything unethical in writing the story. Assuming this is about the story referenced on the Georgia page that op failed to link here.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:19 pm to deeprig9
It’s called investigative journalism. Would rather have someone write an article without having the facts. Or have someone write it with truth and accuracy?
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:23 pm to djsdawg
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But they don’t and never did
IF they "thought" they did, then they wouldn't know until they went and checked it out.
Going by the other posts i'm seeing here, i'd say the possibility of the underaged being served alcohol is a very legitimate story.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:23 pm to Smokeyone
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A player died in a presumed DUI incident with a car driven by a UGA employee. Questions will be asked.
Eh. Everything will come out in the Civil Trial that you know is coming...
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:23 pm to WDE24
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If they are underage or leaving drunk and driving it’s newsworthy
The driver was 24 years old, this has been established fact from Day 1.
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Assuming this is about the story referenced on the Georgia page that op failed to link here.
The reason I didn't link the article was because I was trying to start a bigger discussion about journalists stalking college players to get a scoop, and the ethics of that.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:26 pm to ukraine_rebel
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i'd say the possibility of the underaged being served alcohol is a very legitimate story.
But the underaged wasn't the driver. So this big scoop is that an underaged football player got served at a bar after their national championship parade?
Holy shite! Bombshell! Pultizer Prize Inbound for the AJC!!!
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:27 pm to deeprig9
quote:But at least one of the passengers was not. 24 year olds, like everyone else, shouldn’t drive under the influence. There are laws in place for both the driver and the establishment. It’s a newsworthy event and story.
The driver was 24 years old, this has been established fact from Day 1.
quote:You are making assumptions without any factual support about alleged “stalking” while getting mad about a journalist using facts and resources. I think you are just too emotionally involved to be logical here.
start a bigger discussion about journalists stalking college players to get a scoop, and the ethics of that.
quote:And then died in a potential DUI accident. Then the establishment may still not be making any changes. Though that was less clear and only alluded to. That should be followed up on and clarified.
So this big scoop is that an underaged football player got served at a bar after their national championship parade?
quote:is every article of news required to be Pulitzer worthy to be ethical or newsworthy?
Holy shite! Bombshell! Pultizer Prize Inbound for the AJC!!!
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:31 pm to deeprig9
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deeprig9
This is just the way it works. Georgia is the best program in the nation and has back to back titles - they're going to get a lot of eyeballs pointed their direction.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:33 pm to deeprig9
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Does anyone consider this ethical?
I think it would probably be unethical if these were amateur college kids just trying to get their degrees.
But these are local celebrities, and are often highly compensated as spokesmen for area businesses.
Their names, images and likenesses are often contracted out for millions and millions of dollars because of their high profile status.
It's completely reasonable for someone who makes large sums of money off of their public image to also be heavily scrutinized over their public behavior.
The media interest isn't any more unwarranted than if a reporter covering the celebrity beat got a call about Prince Harry and Megan or Governor Kemp at an area strip club.
In fact many of these young men make more than the governor.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:34 pm to WDE24
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shouldn’t drive under the influence.
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You are making assumptions without any factual support
Until the tox comes back, you are the one making assumptions without factual support.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:35 pm to UT Beer Man
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I think it would probably be unethical if these were amateur college kids just trying to get their degrees.
But these are local celebrities, and are often highly compensated as spokesmen for area businesses.
Their names, images and likenesses are often contracted out for millions and millions of dollars because of their high profile status.
It's completely reasonable for someone who makes large sums of money off of their public image to also be heavily scrutinized over their public behavior.
The media interest isn't any more unwarranted than if a reporter covering the celebrity beat got a call about Prince Harry and Megan or Governor Kemp at an area strip club.
In fact many of these young men make more than the governor.
This is a reasoned, well thought-out response on the bigger picture I was trying to get at. Thanks for your opinion.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 3:37 pm
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