re: Journalists Following College Athletes to Spy on Them

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NIL is a double edged sword.

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so was the mountains of millions of cash that georgia used to buy players

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You need a post quality review. It's ok, I've had several myself. It's a quality control thing.

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whatever you have to make up to cover for being a mindnumbed moron. I have played for some of the best coaches in history and have forgotten more than you have likely ever known about the game of college football, it is a quality control thing.

IE I know, as do all intelligent people what has happened at georgia

and that is before weighing in on what georgia fans are all about as pathetic lowlife.

before you go where all the other moron lowlife go, there is not a shred of anything even remotely like jealousy involved. Believe me, I would hate for one of my teams to win in such a way

That sounds like paradisese

my whole take is, you can't expect me to feel bad for a "tragedy" when a group of people got wasted at a strip club and drove home and ate shite. play dumb games win dumb prizes.

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Such as, Waffle House must not be allowed to open 24/7? College kids can’t be allowed to drink in a bar? In bed by 10?

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Haven’t been following. Did the accident occur in a state vehicle driven by a state employee?

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my whole take is, you can't expect me to feel bad for a "tragedy" when a group of people got wasted at a strip club and drove home and ate shite. play dumb games win dumb prizes.

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You do you, but that is a pretty shitty take. Strip club or not, drunk or not, my sympathy for the victims and their families remains unchanged. It’s sad and could have happened to too many of us but for the grace of God.

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That's a shot over the bow, that's the AJC telling UGA "We're watching you".

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Players are profesional now and UGA, like other SEC teams, pay their staffs several millions of dollars. This isn’t some jr high team. Anyone that can’t handle the spotlight can’t play/coach at a place like that.

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Haven’t been following. Did the accident occur in a state vehicle driven by a state employee?

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Don’t think so

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before you go where all the other moron lowlife go, there is not a shred of anything even remotely like jealousy involved. Believe me, I would hate for one of my teams to win in such a way

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Dude. Your team won a National Championship in 1957 while on probation for paying players. Are you disavowing that title? Go on record.

Auburn, 1956

The violations: Through Auburn assistant coach Hal Herring, a booster was found to have given $500 each to Harry and Robert Beaube, twin brothers from Emma Sansom High School in Gadsden, in order to induce them to play for the Tigers.

The sanctions: Auburn was hit with three years of probation, a two-year postseason ban and a two-year television ban through the 1957 season. The probation was the longest ever handed out by the NCAA at that time.

The aftermath: Auburn went 10-0 and claimed the Associated Press national championship in 1957, but was ineligible to play in a bowl game after the season for the second straight year. The Beaube brothers, both running backs, ended up playing college football at Tulsa.

Fresh from coming off of THAT probation:
Auburn, 1958

The violations: An Auburn booster was found to have offered Guntersville High School quarterback Don Fuell a number of luxury items, including a motorboat and an air-conditioned apartment (Fuell was then married with a young son), in order to induce him to sign with the Tigers.

The sanctions: Auburn was hit with three years of probation, a three-year postseason ban and a three-year television ban, extending through the 1960 season.

The aftermath: The Tigers continued to win, posting a 24-5-1 record from 1958-60. Fuell transferred from Auburn after his freshman year to Southern Miss, where he was a small-college All-American in 1961 and was eventually inducted into the school's athletic hall of fame. He later played several years in the Canadian Football League. Head coach Ralph "Shug" Jordan denied the charges regarding Fuell for the remainder of his life.

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Your perception, personally? Forget all the noise, what's your personal perception, no ESPN or internet, what is your personal perception of this, and how the AJC says they are now following around athletes and spying on them.

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Deeprig, the entire problem with this thread is summed up in the bolded word. By using the word "Spy" or "spying" you're doing exactly what you're accusing the AJC of doing. "Spy" and "spying" both have an inherent negative connotation. You could have used more neutral words like, "Observe", "Investigate" or "Surveille". But by using the word "spy" in the thread title and continuously thru the thread, you are implicitly fishing for the answer your want people to give you. Just a thought...

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Regarding the Robert Frost quote, are you saying they should have just stayed home and played video games, maybe bust out the Clue board game and made some popcorn... but because they went downtown they chose the wrong road, and therefore, it's ok for "journalists" to spy on college athletes looking for dirt.

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I included the Robert Frost quote because it is traditionally included in The Guidon or the instruction book handed out to all new cadets at The Citadel. I was speaking specifically to my own choices in life, both good and bad, but primarily the one to go to a school where there we less distractions and wasn't the traditionally college experience (I didn't think I'd make it at a traditionally college). It was a deeply personal quote to me, and that why I posted it.



However, since you didn't get that (and I really didn't expect you to) and made it about something else, here's my retort to those statements.

By all accounts, the UGA students and employees that were involved in the tragic auto accident were all adults. As I tell folks all the time, adults get to make adult decisions. If they want to make the decisions they did that night, they are adults, and they have that right. And nothing is wrong with those decisions. That is, until something like this, goes wrong. And when that happens, adults have to accept the societal consequences that come with those decisions. That includes public judgement or scrutiny and any legal consequences (civil or criminal) if applicable. Obviously, up until this point, there have been no real consequences or accountability (yes I'm speaking of UGA and the football program here) for these types of activities or other decisions might have been made.

Now that being said, all I know is that had the adults involved here made different decisions than the ones on that fateful night, we wouldn't be having these conversations.