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Jake Mangum pleads for 3rd paid assistant and more scholarships in final presser
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:00 am
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:02 am to Rayburn8
It’s time, college baseball is dying.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:46 am to AHM21
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AHM21 - It’s time, college baseball is dying.
They need to do something about TD Ameritrade, no doubt. I hate that ballpark. It has turned every game into pitcher duels. Most casual baseball fans want some offense, and if they get nothing but a pitcher duel at every turn, they change the channel.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:20 am to Arkapigdiesel
It’s better. Those first few years it opened plus the old balls made it torture to watch a game. The year UCLA won, their game plan was to throw 88 mph belt high fastballs and let the other team fly out all game.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:26 am to Rayburn8
Mangum is preaching to the choir. Teams in Omaha agree but it’s the rest of the country that refuses to let the game even have the option to change. It’s a total joke that college baseball has been allowed to languish like it has and, by virtue of Title IX, same goes for the women’s sports that would also receive a boost.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:41 am to Arkapigdiesel
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They need to do something about TD Ameritrade, no doubt.
I know in baseball you have to learn to play in varying parks, but I don't understand why they would want to play the national championship in a stadium that is so much larger and different than just about any other stadium used in the college game. Other than a few weekday games in pro stadiums, TD Ameritrade is different from anything these players see.
I thought Rosenblatt allowed for too many HRs, especially when the wind was blowing out, but they didnt' have to over compensate.
I think we should just resurrect old Clark Field in Austin and play the games there (the cliff is in play)
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:00 am to Dday63
Mangum seems like a good kid, well said.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:01 am to Rayburn8
For you true college baseball fans you need to listen to this! I know and I know it’s niche sport, blab, blab, blab! But 1mil viewers and average attendance at several baseball college baseball parks of 9k. Come on NCAA! It’s time to change! Damn we had 13k at a regional in one of the least populated states in the country. The interest is there!
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:21 am to tylerdurden24
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by virtue of Title IX, same goes for the women’s sports that would also receive a boost.
Baseball is a low to non-revenue sport for most programs. Those same programs are also typically upside down on their overall sports budget.
So, let's say you take baseball from 12 to 18 full scholarships. You also have to add 6 scholarships to women's sports for a total of 12 rides. You just increased the annual athletic budget by somewhere between 300,000 and 500,000 a year.
That would be a deal breaker for many programs. Instead of giving scholarships to 6 more girls, you'd take them away from 12 when they dumped those to match the baseball ones they no longer have because they either shut down the program or dropped down to D3
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:23 am to JustGetItRight
So what do you do? Just let schools like Vandy have a massive advantage over everyone? It’s legal cheating.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:26 am to Arkapigdiesel
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They need to do something about TD Ameritrade, no doubt. I hate that ballpark. It has turned every game into pitcher duels. Most casual baseball fans want some offense, and if they get nothing but a pitcher duel at every turn, they change the channel.
Since when is the HR the only way to produce offense?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:28 am to Dday63
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I know in baseball you have to learn to play in varying parks, but I don't understand why they would want to play the national championship in a stadium that is so much larger and different than just about any other stadium used in the college game. Other than a few weekday games in pro stadiums, TD Ameritrade is different from anything these players see.
I thought Rosenblatt allowed for too many HRs, especially when the wind was blowing out, but they didnt' have to over compensate.
They didn't build TD Ameritrade the way they did to strangle offense--they built it that way because that was part of their plan to promote the city, by building a park with a view of downtown.
The problem that TD Ameritrade faces (a SE orientation, with nothing to block the prevailing southerly wind) is the same problem that the Texas Rangers had at the old Arlington Stadium. When the park opened in '72, there was nothing to block the wind, other than the outfield bleachers, and right field was a notorious home run graveyard. Overall, it was very much a pitcher's park, with similar dimensions to TD Ameritrade, and the same SE orientation.
However, in 1983, the Rangers erected a scoreboard/billboard structure that loomed over the outfield bleachers, and suddenly (and unexpectedly) found that this transformed their park from a pitcher's park to a hitter's park. Now, the wind went over the field (higher than most fly balls), hit the upper deck behind home plate, and the backwash actually helped propel balls out.
The same thing could be done in Omaha, but city leaders would have to swallow hard and obstruct the view that was the very reason for constructing the ballpark with this orientation.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:29 am to Rayburn8
Much respect for Jake! I think he hit .850 vs the Gators. 
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:35 am to JustGetItRight
Thing is the whole proposal isn’t to make the third assistant position and scholarship increases mandatory, just to give schools that want to invest in that the option to do so. Right now there’s an artificial cap on the sport that was meant to keep things fairly even across all levels but is now holding back programs able and willing to grow college baseball into something other than a regional game and by extension grow women’s sports that would be required to receive an equal bump. It’s not feasible for a lot of schools but for P5 programs with money to burn its a wasted opportunity to grow a sport worthy of growing
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:59 am to Dawgsrule
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So what do you do? Just let schools like Vandy have a massive advantage over everyone? It’s legal cheating.
How is what Vandy does any different than a HOPE scholarship in Georgia?
The Mississippi SEC schools have great success in baseball without the help of either lottery scholarships or creative workarounds like Vandy.
Sometimes you suck just because you suck (as Bama has done in baseball the last few years) and not because the rules give someone else has a massive advantage.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:07 am to JustGetItRight
quote:asinine. Why are we still holding people to genders in college athletics. Everyone knows gender is fluid.
You also have to add 6 scholarships to women's sports for a total of 12 rides.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:13 am to tylerdurden24
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Thing is the whole proposal isn’t to make the third assistant position and scholarship increases mandatory, just to give schools that want to invest in that the option to do so. Right now there’s an artificial cap on the sport that was meant to keep things fairly even across all levels but is now holding back programs able and willing to grow college baseball into something other than a regional game and by extension grow women’s sports that would be required to receive an equal bump. It’s not feasible for a lot of schools but for P5 programs with money to burn its a wasted opportunity to grow a sport worthy of growing
So what you're really proposing then is creating a D1 super division. You could do that, but you'd be talking about a lot fewer "new" scholarships. It also wouldn't help the popularity of the sport. If anything it would hurt it because the quality of play at the lower levels would decrease because the guys getting scholarships there would instead be playing D1-super ball.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:14 am to Rayburn8
I fail to see the niche sport argument anymore in regards to program investment. Can't help the fact that mother nature screws the northern schools.
Last 10 Champions:
South Carolina
South Carolina
Arizona
UCLA
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Coastal Carolina
Florida
Oregon State
Vandy/Louisville/Michigan/Texas Tech
That's a lot of geographical parity.
Last 10 Champions:
South Carolina
South Carolina
Arizona
UCLA
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Coastal Carolina
Florida
Oregon State
Vandy/Louisville/Michigan/Texas Tech
That's a lot of geographical parity.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:19 am to BobLeeDagger
1. College baseball is NOT dying. IT is alive and well at more places than ever before.
2. The 3rd paid asst is coming soon. I read in the ATL newspaper that if only 4 schools change their votes, 2 more conferences would have voted YES and it would have passed.
3. We are NOT getting more schollies. The vast majority of schools who play baseball do NOT want that added expense to a sport that loses money everywhere except LSU.
2. The 3rd paid asst is coming soon. I read in the ATL newspaper that if only 4 schools change their votes, 2 more conferences would have voted YES and it would have passed.
3. We are NOT getting more schollies. The vast majority of schools who play baseball do NOT want that added expense to a sport that loses money everywhere except LSU.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:25 am to tylerdurden24
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P5 programs with money to burn
In 2016-17 there were 14 schools that received $0 in financial subsidies from the student fees and other non-athletic revenue and only 34 that relied on those other sources for less than 10% of their total revenue.
You've barely got enough programs with "money to burn" to make a super conference or two and nowhere enough to make a new super division.
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