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re: Jake Mamgum coming back next year.

Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Big4Dawg
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:42 am to
This happens a lot. A couple of teams talked to him about drafting him in the 7-8th and he said he's returning to school. Teams don't like wasting picks on players that aren't signing.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:45 am to
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He's an awesome college player but he just doesn't have the measurables that pro scouts drool over


I don't think we're at opposing viewpoints here. He knows he's not that high on MLB boards
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:47 am to
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Jake Mamgum coming back next year.



Thought you were talking about Jim Dandy Mangrum.

Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:49 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64560 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:04 am to
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This happens a lot. A couple of teams talked to him about drafting him in the 7-8th and he said he's returning to school. Teams don't like wasting picks on players that aren't signing.

Sure it happens, but not very often for a top 10 round pick that is a junior with no leverage moving forward. I don't think he was ever going to get drafted in the first 10 rounds.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:06 am to
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That is what you call a college player playing for the love of the game and not draft money


What a dumb, homer post. can he not love the game of baseball while playing 162+ games, or does he only get to love baseball while playing college ball?


Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4249 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:07 am to
Mangum is one of those guys who does not fit the pro model because he is not big enough , strong enough but he is a gamer.

He will make some MLB team a tremendous pro player in a few years. For whatever reasons the pro scouts look at sterile measurements with players and completely discount the intangibles that one brings to the field and plate.

He is a great fielder, puts the ball in play, Cohen noted the other night that he can hit HR’s but does not because his role is to get on base.

I am glad he is on our team.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 11:08 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64560 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:18 am to
Mangum reminds me a lot of Taylor Dugas from Alabama.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:22 am to
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his trashy mom can bounce her boobs on live TV some more.


Yeah. She looks trashy.

She married former Bama player John Mangum who went into finance after an NFL career.


Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:29 am to
You’re aware every expert mocked him 4-6th round right? State fans were real suprised he went so late.

Him telling teams is the only logical reason.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64560 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:33 am to
Mangum would not have turned down 4th round money
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:36 am to
Why not? Just because you would not doesn’t mean he would not. Hate this notion everyone on this board has that everything is about money.

To a lot of people there is more to life than $$$$$.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64560 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:40 am to
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Why not? Just because you would not doesn’t mean he would not. Hate this notion everyone on this board has that everything is about money.

To a lot of people there is more to life than $$$$$.

In a sport like baseball where 99% of players never make it to the majors, then yeah money is definitely important. When your signing bonus goes from $1.5MM to $10k, then yeah money is definitely important. Mangum can always get his degree in the offseason, but it is the difference of having essentially no signing bonus and making minimum wage in the minors to getting a signing bonus worth enough to tide you over if baseball doesn't ultimately work out. It's called making a career decision. If he wants to maximize his career potential, you just don't turn down that kind of money your junior season.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 11:41 am
Posted by Big4Dawg
Member since May 2013
1058 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:53 am to
Well we'll just disagree then. MLB had him as #180.
Posted by Big4Dawg
Member since May 2013
1058 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:00 pm to
No, he turned down 7th round money though.
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
2873 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:14 pm to
Magnum reminds me of a quicker, switch hitting version of Tony Gwynn.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:21 pm to
It's funny how MLB is stuck on their slot limits for players and positions. Adam Frazier was a 6th rounder in 2013 and made the Show by 2016. Played SS at State and has played a lot of OF for Pittsburgh. Mangum is every bit the bat that Frazier was, but since he's an OF he needs to be taller and hit for more power. I think Jake hits a few more HRs next year, because he can. Still won't help his leverage with contract negotiations, but may get him selected a few rounds higher.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27227 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:36 pm to
Jake Mangum was drafted in the 32nd round and was the 950th pick.

That's why he's coming back.

fricking derp.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64560 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:47 pm to
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Well we'll just disagree then. MLB had him as #180.

Zach Watson was a Baseball America top 30 college prospect and top 100 prospect overall. He was drafted in the 40th round. Zach Watson wanted to go pro. But he was a draft eligible sophomore who will still have leverage next year as a junior, so naturally he's going to return. These publications are a nice guide but the MLB draft is very unpredictable.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64560 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:50 pm to
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I think Jake hits a few more HRs next year, because he can. Still won't help his leverage with contract negotiations, but may get him selected a few rounds higher.

He'll probably be a top 5-10 round pick which is typically littered with college seniors who won't get paid but peanuts on their signing bonuses. For instance, Kramer Robertson was drafted in the 32nd round in 2016 as a junior. He was offered $250k to sign. He turned it down to return to LSU. He was drafted in the 4th round after his senior season last year but was offered only $150k, so even though he jumped up 26 rounds in the draft, his signing bonus was $100k less than it was the year prior.
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