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re: It’s time for teams to stop scheduling Notre Dame
Posted on 12/2/18 at 5:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 12/2/18 at 5:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I know the official protocol. I don’t care what their words say. Their actions show otherwise.* I’ve provided three examples of teams that didn’t win a conference getting in over teams that did. Provide one example of a conference winner getting in over a non-conference winner because they won their conference. You can’t because it’s never happened.
*Those actions are also correct, as I’ve been arguing in this thread. A conference championship doesn’t mean anything as far as determining if a team is one of the four best/most deserving. The win over a good team in the CCG might, but not winning the conference title itself.
*Those actions are also correct, as I’ve been arguing in this thread. A conference championship doesn’t mean anything as far as determining if a team is one of the four best/most deserving. The win over a good team in the CCG might, but not winning the conference title itself.
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 5:38 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Their actions show otherwise.
No they don't.
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I’ve provided three examples of teams that didn’t win a conference getting in over teams that did.
Cool. Now do how many teams with conference championships have gone over teams without one.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 5:54 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No they don't.
Then why are you in the Rose Bowl (and ranked behind UGA)? Why was Penn State not in over you in 2016? They had two official committee criteria over you: head-to-head AND conference champ. The answer is because the committee doesn’t follow their criteria.
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how many teams with conference championships have gone over teams without one
Not because of winning the conference. Because of record, SOS, quality wins, etc. That’s the point I’ve been making.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 5:54 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
ND is in because they are undefeated and will bring ratings and ad revenue.
Deserving means something different when dollars are at stake. That’s why
Bama got in last year without being divisional or. conference champs.
Is OSU a better team ? Yeah , I think so but they left the door open with the Purdue
loss.
Deserving means something different when dollars are at stake. That’s why
Bama got in last year without being divisional or. conference champs.
Is OSU a better team ? Yeah , I think so but they left the door open with the Purdue
loss.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 5:57 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:El Cid would beat mighty 4-8 Ball State ...likely by more than the 8 points NDame did.
If ND was 13-0 and played The Citadel
smart money says Notre Dame wouldn't put up 17 on Alabama as the Bulldogs did, either.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 6:00 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Then why are you in the Rose Bowl (and ranked behind UGA)?
Why is Oklahoma at #4? Why was Ohio State #4 in 2014? Why were Michigan State and Washington in?
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Not because of winning the conference.
Not only because of winning the conference.
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That’s the point I’ve been making.
Obviously, and it's been demonstrated that you're wrong. More than once.
Here you go...again...
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The CFP committee lists five protocol for deciding between comparable teams:
- Conference championships
- Strength of schedule
- Head-to-head competition
- Outcomes of common opponents
- Other relevant factors
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"We spent considerable time on it, as you might expect. In the end, a one-loss conference champion with their only loss being on a neutral field and a close loss to a ranked team, which they avenged in their conference championship. As we've talked about the last several weeks obviously, a dynamic offense, and their defense has made some big plays in the last couple of weeks."
How weird is it that they always talk about it first, too...
Posted on 12/2/18 at 7:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Why is Oklahoma at #4? Why was Ohio State #4 in 2014? Why were Michigan State and Washington in?
OU: Because UGA had two losses.
OSU: No non-playoff team had a better record. And a 59-point win over a top-20 team.
MSU: They has one loss. The only Power 5 teams that didn’t make it that had fewer than two losses were Iowa and OSU. MSU beat both.
Washington: They had one loss. No Power 5 non-champ had fewer than two losses.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:51 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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OU: Because UGA had two losses.
Rob Mullens doesn't agree with you...but what would he know about the committee's decision.
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OSU: No non-playoff team had a better record. And a 59-point win over a top-20 team.
And a conference championship. They specifically pointed that out. The Big 12 even created a championship game because of the decision.
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MSU: They has one loss. The only Power 5 teams that didn’t make it that had fewer than two losses were Iowa and OSU. MSU beat both.
And a conference championship. Again, they mentioned that specifically.
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Washington: They had one loss. No Power 5 non-champ had fewer than two losses.
And a conferences championship...you see anything recurring here?
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:57 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
I’m just pissed clemson got the semifinal bye this year. Color me jealous
Posted on 12/2/18 at 11:32 pm to BluegrassBelle
frick everything about notre dame.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 11:58 pm to BluegrassBelle
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It’s time for teams to stop scheduling Notre Dame by BluegrassBelle
If other conferences take the risk of getting knocked out over a loss in a conference championship, it’s high time college football forces Notre Dame’s hand to join a conference in football.
It’s time for teams to stop scheduling bama?
Oh...I forgot.....it wouldn’t matter.
Bama gets the automatic bid.
It doesn’t matter if bama plays in a conference championship game or if they don’t.
Hell, they could lose the conference championship game and they would still “get in”.
Common knowledge if they lost to Georgia, Bama and Georgia would have been in the final four.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:02 am
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:05 am to Rohan Gravy
What would Wavy Gravy do?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:17 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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I’ll just repeat this in threads like this: We beat Pitt, just like Clemson did last night. We beat Northwestern, just like OSU did last night. So we have two conference championship wins. Next time we’ll schedule the Citadel for yesterday so we can finish 13-0 and you can stop crying
Auburn beat Washington who won their conference championship game . Should they be in the playoffs? ND beat scrubs that won weak division.
NW was killed by Duke and lost to Akron . Your bragging about beating them , just think about how bad that looks .
PSU and UCF destroyed Pitt while ND barely beat Pitt. Should UCF be ranked ahead of ND ?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:22 am to BluegrassBelle
Na.
I’d love to olay ND.
Maybe even in yankee stadium. That would be sweet
I’d love to olay ND.
Maybe even in yankee stadium. That would be sweet
Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:47 am to BluegrassBelle
I've never understood why Notre Dame rolls up so many on here.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:57 am to Nitro Express
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Playing against any ACC opponent not named Clemson, or playing Pitt in any form of football game, especially a "championship" game, should be no source of pride for anyone ever. You need to make a better point.
Clemson is going to roll the Irish bigly, and everyone will regret not putting UGA or OSU in over ND.
Pitt's last championship is contemporary with UGA's last championship. They're not a huge power these days but they're not pushovers either.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 7:01 am to MizzouTrue
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Norte Dame beat Pittsburgh by 5 points
Clemson murdered them
Clemson/Norte Dame should’ve been the ACC Championship game
Clemson beat Syracuse 27-23
Notre Dame murdered them 33-3
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:55 am to Loserman
Out of Syracuse and Pitt, which were championship games?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:46 am to BluegrassBelle
If you really look at it, ND plays a pretty tough schedule every year. I'd say more difficult than your average power 5 schedule. Also, not having a conf champ game is a double edged sword, it can help just as much as it can hurt.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:47 am to BluegrassBelle
Or just beat em. Thats the other way to handle it.
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