Buckeye Fan 19

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And my point is how utterly unfun it must be for their fans. They've completely destroyed any possibility of enjoying the football season. They are all in on trying to make and win the playoff and if that doesn't happen I don't see any joy in the year at all..

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I actually don’t disagree with that at all. It’s a bummer that we have like 2 regular season games that are fun to watch, and I have to spend the other 10 critiquing minutiae of our running game.

That also doesn’t mean anything about how good ND is or isn’t.

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Except for a series of three or so back-to-back-to back plays spanning over 30 seconds, it was a very even game. ND fans would lead you to believe that it was a 49-0 game, though.

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That's not true at all. I'll even grant you GJJ that it was an "even game" for this discussion (which is a huge concession for a 13-point win). Okay, so ND played evenly with the SEC Champ, and yet we still have people here that act like ND would go 7-5 in the SEC. That's the pushback.

I completely agree. And for what it's worth, that's essentially what happened last year and what would probably happen this year. That's the drawback of the mediocre schedule.

I would love if we just went with some sort of "strength of record" formula for at larges and seeding, and got rid of the human committee completely. As it relates to the OP, yeah, it's not a ton of fun to watch most ND games, but most of that isn't ND's choice. USC backed out (for now), IU backed out of the upcoming series, Texas was talking about backing out after last season's 9-3 / OSU loss (but I think the win over OSU this year might have them change their stance a bit).

Right now, there's not much incentive to play big OOC games, which obviously hurts ND. If you go to 24 that might change, or utilizing a "strength of record" formula would too, because a loss to a great team would minimally hurt you while a win would be huge, so having ND as a non-conference opponent would be very beneficial to most teams.

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The playoff run was the first post season success Notre Dame had in 30 years. The norm is them making games above their heads and then getting embarrassed

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Yep, Bob Davie, Ty Willingham, Charlie Weis and Brian Kelly are terrible head coaches. Congrats, you’re very smart.

ND lost to NIU and owned the SEC Champ in the same season. Your conference isn’t what it once was.

1) ND will beat Miami and be 12-0. (The MSECB will act like it’s not a big win at that point.)

2) None of this really matters bc we have a playoff.

3) The SEC hasn’t even made the championship game in the past 3 seasons. Six participants. Zero from the SEC. Absolutely pathetic.

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Schedule is already a metric albeit a seemingly ignored one.

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This is a myth that isn’t really true. Oklahoma and Alabama got in over ND last year pretty much only due to their overall SOS / SOR / a better top win. IU went 11-1 in 2024 in the B1G, but was only the 10 seed, because despite 11 wins in the 2nd-best conference, their OOC schedule was trash and their only ranked opponent was OSU. Pretty much the only major issue people have been mad about is 9-3 Texas, but they also had the UF loss and two OT wins against meh teams.

SOS is always a factor, it’s not the only factor. If you’re going to have a committee, that’s the way it should be / has to be. I’d also be perfectly fine if they just went to a formula similar to ESPN’s Strength of Record, with no human decisions at all for at larges / seeding teams. But as long as they have humans deciding, it’s going to be a weird and non-transparent hodgepodge of factors.

It’s a bunch of 215-325 pound men cutting at explosive speeds and running into each other at 10-20 mph…

Maybe Leavitt should’ve been legitimately doubtful…

The Northwestern one would be impossible for him to accomplish.

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I’m glad I root for my team rather than a conference. This seems so lame

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Completely agree.

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