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About the worst possible for Deion / Shedeur:

1) 5th round.
2) Bad weather.
3) Terribly-run organization.
4) Drafted behind another rookie QB.
I can’t imagine he’d be productive, but he was better with the Bucs than I thought he’d be.

Still, there’s a huge difference between coming back at age 31 after only one season off than coming back at age 36 after three seasons off.
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Canadians all the way down in Arizona is interesting


Snowbirds/retirees probably. A lot of older Americans from northern states end up in either Florida or Arizona (either permanently or at least November - March); it’s probably similar for Canadians. And there’s not really any reason for (non-Mexican) working-age / grad school immigrants to be more likely to end up there compared to any other state.

ETA: I find Germany to New Mexico the more odd/interesting one.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/21/25 at 9:43 pm
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I agree. There's a good breakdown of the play breakdown on YouTube that I saw. Basically, the mistake was made when the defenseman (Werenski, I think), took a bad angle on the Puck as it went behind the net. He should have gone to the corner. When he didn't, Matthews abandoned McDavid, and the loose Puck in the corner went right to where Matthews had been.

Had d fulfilled his responsibility, Matthews had contain on McDavid, but fatigue and poor decision making kicked in.

An ounce of space, and the Snow Mexicans have our cup


It was Fox, not Werenski. Fox had a pretty bad tournament. Not sure who was more disappointing: him or Jack Hughes.

Crazy to think this now since Fox won the Norris only 4 years ago and is still just 27, but I don’t think you can count on him as part of “the core” group of U.S. defensemen anymore. I think McAvoy - Werenski - Quinn Hughes - Slavin (in some combination) are your top-4 for the foreseeable future (through 2028, possibly through 2030, although a couple might age out by then).

Fox can still be part of the next tier fighting for a roster spot / 3rd pairing minutes (along with guys like Hanifin, Faber, Sanderson, Luke Hughes, Pionk, etc.) but he’s no longer indispensable or a lock. Which is hard to imagine thinking 12 months ago.
In light of his retirement today… Zack Martin finished his career with more All-Pros (9) than accepted holding calls (7). He also had zero accepted holding calls in pass protection in more than 6,000 career pass pro snaps.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/18/25 at 6:53 pm
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wait, why wasn’t he already on the roster?


His brother Jack was/is. Quinn would’ve originally been but was injured at the start of the tournament.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/17/25 at 4:28 pm
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So does the USA rest players or try a little less since the game tonight doesn’t change the finals?


They’re resting Hellebuyck and McAvoy. Matthew Tkachuk is out, but I think he might have been out anyway after he didn’t finish the game Saturday.

There are only two extra skaters (non-goalies) on the roster, so only two guys can sit completely (that’ll be M. Tkachuk and McAvoy tonight). But I bet the top line and 2nd line will flip ice time with the 3rd line and 4th line, and same with the 1st D pairing and 3rd D pairing.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/17/25 at 1:26 pm
4-0 Canada over Finland in the second period right now.

Barring a major Canadian collapse over the next 1.5 periods, it’ll be a U.S. - Canada rematch in the championship game on Thursday night.
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As a Kent St alum, I take issue with this. I just want to make a correction to this post. Kent State is actually a MUCH better school athletically than Ohio U in the Big 3 sports. The only sport that Ohio is better at than Kent is football. Ohio is the most underachieving school in the MAC. Period. Kent State is a baseball powerhouse in the MAC. CWS in 2012: Kent State basketball power in the MAC. NCAA Elite 8 in 2002 MAC Baseball Champions just since 2000: 00, 03, 06, 08, 11, 12, 13, 16, 17, 18, 23 MAC Basketball Champions since 2000: 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 08, 10, 11, 15, 17, 23 Ohio U hasn’t won shite!!!!


Feels weird for me to take the time to respond about the juggernaut Bobcats and Golden Flashes but basketball for you is at best even, probably slightly in Ohio’s favor. Ohio has been to more NCAA Tournaments than you, has more conference titles than you (both regular season and tournament), more Sweet 16s than you, has been to the Sweet 16 more recently than you, has won 4 NCAA Tournament games since your last NCAA Tournament win and has more NCAA Tournament appearances in the past 15 years than you.

In your favor is the more recent Elite Eight appearance in 2002 (Ohio also has one, but all the way back in the 60s… but also, nobody on Kent St’s current team was born when you made that Elite Eight), the most recent NCAA Tournament (2023 for you vs 2021) and NCAA Tournaments this century (6 vs 4). Regardless, it’s similar ballpark.

Football they’re WAY better than you, both historically and recently. I don’t really care about college baseball, but OP did mention it. However, I’d note you each have one CWS and they have more NCAA Tourney appearances, although you’ve been much better this century. But he also said football is the most important sport in this exercise. So with basketball about even and with them significantly better at football, and a baseball program with about equal total historic success (despite your better recent history), I consider them the superior athletic program.

Regardless, the main point of this thread, Ohio and Kent St are both Group of 5 and rarely play OSU. Neither are OSU’s little brother because neither are even in the same family as OSU.
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It’s not really a rival, but I can’t think of a wider gap than Ohio State and Ohio when it comes to sports for in-state schools


That wouldn’t really apply. They’re not on the same level, just because both have “Ohio” in the name. Rarely play, not a rivalry. Kent State is worse athletically than Ohio U and is also an Ohio public state university.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/16/25 at 8:54 am
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Imagine watching the nba skills competition over that.


It’s not even fully NBA / NBA All-Stars. McClung has played 5 more NBA games in his entire life than I have, and has played 5 more total NBA minutes in the past two seasons than I have. It’s like inviting a AAA player that can’t hit pitches with movement or off-speed pitches into the MLB HR Derby because he can hit a 70 mph throw up the middle 500 feet.

I guess he’s on a two-way… technically. But he’s not an NBA All-star. He’s not an NBA starter. He’s not an NBA bench rotational player. He’s not even an NBA player that’s end of the bench and only plays in blowouts. He’s legitimately not an NBA player. If you’re gonna include him, get rid of the “NBA” pretense and open it up to anyone. I’m sure there’s some guys from Rucker that (along with McClung) can make an entertaining product.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/15/25 at 10:03 pm
Finland vs Canada first on Monday. Then US vs Sweden that night.

US already clinched a championship spot.

Loser of Canada-Finland is eliminated.

If Canada-Finland ends in regulation, that winner is guaranteed in the championship against the U.S. Sweden would be eliminated no matter who wins Canada-Finland, if it’s in regulation.

If Canada-Finland goes to OT, the winner would be in with any result EXCEPT a Sweden regulation win.

If Sweden wins in regulation AND Canada-Finland goes to OT, Sweden will be in the championship. They’re eliminated if they don’t win in regulation OR Canada-Finland ends in regulation.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/15/25 at 9:13 pm
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WTF is Steve Levy wearing?


PK wore it in the 1st intermission (and is now wearing it again). Levy wore it to start the 2nd intermission as a joke.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/15/25 at 7:50 pm
It’s incredible how bad Canada’s goalie pool is now.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/15/25 at 7:44 pm
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Awesome goal by mcdavid Crosby was never that.


Crosby has elite hockey IQ and he’s extremely strong (much stronger than his frame looks) but yeah, McDavid’s speed is another level.

Crosby’s peak was probably about equal to McDavid’s peak now, but McDavid is/was a more entertaining/breathtaking style to watch.

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/15/25 at 7:04 pm
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Are NHL players playing in this… and in the Olympics again?


They’re going back to the Olympics next year. Then the World Cup of Hockey is back in 2028. The plan is to continue the World Cup every 4 years after that. So essentially, a “best-on-best” tournament every two years moving forward starting in 2026 (Olympics, then World Cup, then Olympics, etc.).

I don’t know if it’s been officially stated as such, but this tournament is basically a mini dry-run for the World Cup in 2028 (which will be larger than this in terms of both number of countries and length).

re: 4 Nations puck drops tonight

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 2/15/25 at 12:42 pm
Finland-Sweden underway. 1-1 halfway through the 1st.
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Dan frickin' Marino is behind noodle arm Brees?


Noodle arm? Did you not watch Brees at all before 2019?
It was bad. Actually bad, not just bad like how TD says the halftime show is bad every year, even though it’s normally not. This one was bad.
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He’s the best big man of all time and probably 3rd best player all time behind Jordan and LeBron.


Jordan only won 5 MVPs. LeBron only won 4.

Whether fair or not (it’s not fair…) people just don’t like voting for someone again for MVP after they already won a few. A bit similar to College Football Coach of the Year (though not as egregious).