re: It’s officially the end of a dynasty for Bama

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when you have the greatest dynasty the history of the sport has ever seen, there's really only one way to go from there.

That's what's lost in threads like thsi when they come up every week. Nobody is saying bama sucks or is about go to 7-5 every year. We're saying that the all-time historic run they had from 2008/2009 - 2020 is over. They're still good but they aren't that level. They're still better than hundreds of other teams in america.

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Of course that part is over. Everyone was saying what you just said the moment Saban retired, and only the most delusional Bammer thought the dynasty would continue. Hell, I'm pretty sure even if Saban stayed on for a few more years he would struggle to match what he did in the past.

That said, once DeBoer gets his type of QB in the system Bama is going to be a problem for all of us with the type of talent they are still stacking. I don't fear Bama, but I do recognize they won't be easy to keep out of future SEC champ games.

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Nobody is saying bama sucks or is about go to 7-5 every year.

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Lots of people are saying that, especially on this board.

Alabama is about the enter the 90s version of themselves. It will be 15 years of suckdom.

They've been there before, don't act surprised.

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maybe the williamtaylors of the world, but I can't imagine there are that many peoeple that truly ACTUALLY think bama is about to go back to 8-4 as the norm.

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I dunno WG, this board is made up of some real big time dumb dumbs

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Alabama missed the playoffs in 2019, 2021 and again this year. I think Alabama and Alabama fans will manage just fine. While it seems like Alabama has been in the playoffs every year, they have only made it 8 out of 11 years. That is only 73% of the time.

Instead of worrying about Alabama, you should worry about LSU. LSU has only made the CFP playoffs once in their history. That is 9% and ties you with TCU, SMU, Boise State, Arizona State and Cincinnati. Very elite company.

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And for all of that, Bama's last title is only a year removed from LSU's.

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We're saying that the all-time historic run they had from 2008/2009 - 2020 is over. They're still good but they aren't that level.

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To be fair, no one is and probably won't be repeated for that long of a stretch ever again. Dynasties will be more akin to Nebraska's mid-90s dynasty (5-year runs and such) rather than the 12-14 year run Alabama had.

This is only the fifth time since 2009 that Alabama did not have a path to a national title going into the post-season (2010, 2013, 2019, 2022, 2024). Every other season (2009, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021, 2023) Alabama was either in the BCS title game or the playoffs. I should also point out that in 2008 and 2013, they were in the hunt until the SECCG or the final game of the regular season.

Plenty of Alabama fans are spoiled by that level of success; it would hard to not be. I, OTOH, have been around for a much longer time. I remember the post-Bear era, the Perkins/Curry years of good-not-great, the Stallings era which got us some former glory, then the "dark times" of DuBose/Fran/Price/Shula.

That 14-year run is probably the best of its kind ever in the history of college football and highly unlikely to ever be repeated. Those of us who suffered through much leaner times will always be grateful for what Saban brought to Alabama.

Alabama's football dynasty, under head coach Nick Saban, is often considered to have entered a period of decline following the 2017 season, although it has not officially "ended." The team has continued to remain competitive, but several key factors marked a shift after 2017:

Key Moments Indicating a Shift:

2018 National Championship Loss: Alabama lost to Clemson in the 2018 National Championship Game (44-16), marking their first major defeat in a national title game under Saban. Although they remained a top team, this loss to a rising Clemson program showed cracks in their dominance.


2019 and 2020 Seasons:

In 2019, Alabama failed to make the College Football Playoff for the first time in the playoff era, losing two regular-season games to LSU and Auburn.
While Alabama rebounded in 2020 with a dominant national title win, the 2020 season was considered to be somewhat of a transitional year due to the absence of fans and other unusual circumstances, which raised questions about consistency.


2021 and 2022:

Alabama's dominance began to be challenged by teams like Georgia and Clemson. In 2021, Alabama made it to the College Football Playoff but lost to Georgia in the National Championship Game.
In 2022, Alabama faced its first three-loss season under Saban, including losses to Tennessee and LSU, which many saw as further evidence that their dynasty was no longer as invulnerable.

Conclusion:

While Alabama under Nick Saban remains a top-tier program, their era of unquestioned dominance (characterized by winning multiple national titles in a short period) is considered to have shifted after 2017. The emergence of other programs, like Georgia, combined with Alabama’s increasing struggles in big games, suggests that the dynasty, while still competitive, has entered a new phase. However, Alabama's continued success in recruiting and competing at the highest level makes it clear they remain a force, just no longer the absolute dominant program they once were.

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BAMA is going to BAMA pre-Saban

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Bama will be fine; however, the landscape of college football has totally changed now with NIL and the open transfer portal.
There won’t be any dynasties.

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Alabama is about the enter the 90s version of themselves. It will be 15 years of suckdom.

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Those were two probation periods with massive scholarship losses. The likelihood of that happening again is slim. Check their entire history and don't just cherry pick the 90s.